A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gold!

Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jun 05, 2014 22:07:37

jerseyhoya wrote:Then the administration raises the idiocy to new levels when Susan Rice goes out on the Sunday talk show circuit (never a good idea) and says Bergdahl “served the United States with honor and distinction.”


I raised this a few posts ago; imagine the tender feelings of the super-amazing & scary imprisoned-for-about-a-decade Transformer-powerful FIVE evildoers when they learn they all were just about worth swapping for ONE dogass stoner who was heroically captured whilst taking a dump.

You've seen things like this transpire before, you can read between at least some of the lines for fun if for no other reason.
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby td11 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 09:24:18

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 06, 2014 09:27:36

he's hopped up on starbucks, what do you expect
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:04:06

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:06:00

oh and i thought clinton was dumb and old, but now we listen to her (after she changed her mind)?

jh, it's not a slogan, it's what's actually done. your entire post is null and void, really. them sending someone out on the Sunday talk shows means nothing to what was done. Them 'changing the narrative' is political talk. And NOW you care about executive power. NOW. I mean, come on, man.

And then there's this dual NARRATIVE of Obama being super weak on international affairs, and then making risky moves with this swap and with killing bin Laden. It can't be both.

From your TIME link:
The White House said Tuesday the President had exercised his constitutional authority out of a sense of urgency for Bergdahl’s safety. “Delaying the transfer in order to provide the 30-day notice would interfere with the Executive’s performance of two related functions that the Constitution assigns to the President: protecting the lives of Americans abroad and protecting U.S. soldiers,” National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said in a statement released to the press. “Because such interference would significantly alter the balance between Congress and the President, and could even raise constitutional concerns, we believe it is fair to conclude that Congress did not intend that the Administration would be barred from taking the action it did in these circumstances,” Hayden said.

Jack Goldsmith, a Bush administration veteran of the battles between the executive branch and Congress over Commander-in-Chief powers in the war against terrorists, says Obama may have been acting legally. On the website Lawfare Tuesday he wrote, “If the statute impinged on an exclusive presidential power, the president properly disregarded it and did not violate it.”

Even many of those who opposed the release in the past accept the president has the power in conflicts to effect a prisoner swap. “We have done prisoner swaps in the past,” says the first official familiar with the debate over the release. But, the official added, “That’s been in international armed conflict where you have a state with which you can negotiate and you can say this guy will not go back to the fight.”

we are fighting a 'new' war. Things change. Afghanistan is supposedly our ally and were not holding him, the Taliban was. Of course you negotiate with them and not a state actor. There is no state actor.
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:08:57

Bernie Sanders got John McCain to help reintroduce his VA reform bill. thing's got some movement now
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby traderdave » Fri Jun 06, 2014 14:24:30

Give it a week; McCain will then suddenly be against it. I used to have a tremendous amount of respect for him but he turned out to be just another party line-towing politician.

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Jun 08, 2014 15:08:20

This is a politician?

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Jun 08, 2014 15:10:20

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby Bucky » Sun Jun 08, 2014 15:35:04

CalvinBall wrote:I AM A FATHER



congrats! Urbn girl??

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby TomatoPie » Mon Jun 09, 2014 09:20:21

I'll say this -- for the most part, I've been on board with Obama foreign policy. Most of the deliberate moves have been well-reasoned, and the screw-ups were bad management and (especially) bad post-event crisis response. Still, until this move, he gets a "B" from me and I fully expected "F" performance.

This one is puzzling - to the left and the right - on many levels. Did the admin break the law doing this deal? Was Bergdahl a deserter? Did we just give the Taliban some strategic leaders back who will operate against us? Who came up with 5 for 1 - is Bergdahl the new Von Hayes?

I need to learn a lot more before reaching any conclusions.

Here is one person, however, who's made up her mind:

the racist element of the bergdahl trade
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby td11 » Mon Jun 09, 2014 09:39:53

TomatoPie wrote:Here is one person, however, who's made up her mind:

the racist element of the bergdahl trade


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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Mon Jun 09, 2014 09:43:50

last thing I read on Thought Catalog was a porn star talking about her first blowjob

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby pacino » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:50:23

virginia politics are pretty disgusting:
RICHMOND — Republicans appear to have outmaneuvered Gov. Terry McAuliffe in a state budget standoff by persuading a Democratic senator to resign his seat, at least temporarily giving the GOP control of the chamber and possibly dooming the governor’s push to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

Sen. Phillip P. Puckett (D-Russell) will announce his resignation Monday, effective immediately, paving the way to appoint his daughter to a judgeship and Puckett to the job of deputy director of the state tobacco commission, three people familiar with the plan said Sunday. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

The news prompted outrage among Democrats — and accusations that Republicans were trying to buy the Senate with job offers in order to thwart McAuliffe’s proposal to expand health coverage to 400,000 low-income Virginians.

Senate Majority Leader Richard L. Saslaw (D-Fairfax) confirmed in a brief telephone interview that Puckett would resign Monday. Del. Terry G. Kilgore (R-Scott), chairman of the commission, confirmed that its executive committee is expected to meet and consider appointing him, perhaps this week.

Kilgore disputed the notion that Puckett was resigning in exchange for the tobacco commission job, but he said the resignation made Puckett available to take the position, which involves awarding economic development grants funded by the national tobacco litigation settlement. Puckett’s salary would be determined by the commission, Kilgore said.

Puckett’s unexpected departure will give the GOP a 20-to-19 majority in the Senate at a time when McAuliffe was counting on Senate support for his Medicaid plan. The GOP-dominated House is firmly opposed, and the disagreement has led to a budget standoff that could trigger a government shutdown if it is not resolved before the start of the new fiscal year, July 1. In addition, Puckett’s district is heavily Republican, and it will be difficult for Democrats to retain the seat in a special election and hang on to control of the Senate overall.
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby pacino » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:20:08

this great piece highlights a weird, sad thing: no one even freaking notices we are at war. we don't go to war as a nation anymore, it's a subset of our population that we send out and wish them luck then proceed to forget about them for 13 years.

highly recommend Rachel Maddow's book Drift, which is about this topic. WE don't feel any impact, so it's much easier to go to war since it really affects no one a lot of people know or choose to know.
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:37:50


So many things I wish I could say about this story, but I just can't.

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby traderdave » Mon Jun 09, 2014 13:41:30

Houshphandzadeh wrote:last thing I read on Thought Catalog was a porn star talking about her first blowjob


Certainly more interesting and fact-based than Ms. Mullen's post.

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jun 09, 2014 13:51:18

was it a hard read?

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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby The Dude » Mon Jun 09, 2014 14:07:24

not really, but it left a bad taste in my mouth
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Re: A New Politics Thread? That's Gold Gerry(mandering); Gol

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Mon Jun 09, 2014 21:45:05

That book by Maddow received a surprisingly large and positive reception from some of the most senior uniformed guys at the Puzzle Palace.

pacino wrote:this great piece highlights a weird, sad thing: no one even freaking notices we are at war. we don't go to war as a nation anymore, it's a subset of our population that we send out and wish them luck then proceed to forget about them for 13 years.

highly recommend Rachel Maddow's book Drift, which is about this topic. WE don't feel any impact, so it's much easier to go to war since it really affects no one a lot of people know or choose to know.
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