Shore wrote:37 players qualified got 500+ PA while playing primarily LF, RF, or DH.

There are only 37 players who logged 500+ PA at one of those three positions?

Amaro has to be trolling us

It's honestly embarrassing. We have this giant fucking payroll littered with turds.

We're the fucking Mets of a few years ago. Not a compliment.

he'll "play" "right field"

Shore wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:young will play RF according to RUBE

GTFO

Ryan Lawrence ‏@ryanlawrence21

Amaro: "Ideally Young will be the everyday right fielder."

Read: DOM BROWN EAT SHIT

Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:37 players qualified got 500+ PA while playing primarily LF, RF, or DH.

There are only 37 players who logged 500+ PA at one of those three positions?

According to BBREF, yes... 51% of games played at LF,RF,DH, and logged 502 PA (batting title number). If I drop it to 500 PA, Stanton and Melky get added, and Delmon's 37th of 39.

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Rk              Player OPS+  PA Year Age  Tm Lg   G  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI  BB IBB  SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS     Pos
1           Ryan Braun  159 677 2012  28 MIL NL 154 598 108 191 36  3 41 112  63  15 128  11  0  5  12 30  7 .319 .391 .595 .987    *7/D
2    Giancarlo Stanton  158 501 2012  22 MIA NL 123 449  75 130 30  1 37  86  46   9 143   5  0  1   5  6  2 .290 .361 .608 .969    *9/D
3        Melky Cabrera  158 501 2012  27 SFG NL 113 459  84 159 25 10 11  60  36   4  63   0  1  5   8 13  5 .346 .390 .516 .906     *79
4    Edwin Encarnacion  152 644 2012  29 TOR AL 151 542  93 152 24  0 42 110  84  12  94  11  0  7   6 13  3 .280 .384 .557 .941  *D3/75
5      Josh Willingham  144 615 2012  33 MIN AL 145 519  85 135 30  1 35 110  76   4 141  14  0  6  15  3  2 .260 .366 .524 .890     *7D
6         Billy Butler  140 679 2012  26 KCR AL 161 614  72 192 32  1 29 107  54   9 111   7  0  4  20  2  1 .313 .373 .510 .882     *D3
7        Josh Hamilton  139 636 2012  31 TEX AL 148 562 103 160 31  2 43 128  60  13 162   5  0  9   9  7  4 .285 .354 .577 .930 *8*7D/9
8        Matt Holliday  138 688 2012  32 STL NL 157 599  95 177 36  2 27 102  75   3 132   9  0  5  16  4  4 .295 .379 .497 .877    *7/D
9         Torii Hunter  132 584 2012  36 LAA AL 140 534  81 167 24  1 16  92  38   1 133   8  1  3  15  9  1 .313 .365 .451 .817    *9/D
10       Shin-Soo Choo  131 686 2012  29 CLE AL 155 598  88 169 43  2 16  67  73   0 150  14  0  1  10 21  7 .283 .373 .441 .815      *9
11      Carlos Beltran  128 619 2012  35 STL NL 151 547  83 147 26  1 32  97  65  15 124   2  1  4   9 13  6 .269 .346 .495 .842   *9/8D
12        Nick Swisher  126 624 2012  31 NYY AL 148 537  75 146 36  0 24  93  77   2 141   4  1  5   9  2  3 .272 .364 .473 .837    *93D
13         Alex Gordon  125 721 2012  28 KCR AL 161 642  93 189 51  5 14  72  73   3 140   3  0  3  14 10  5 .294 .368 .455 .822      *7
14        David Murphy  124 521 2012  30 TEX AL 147 457  65 139 29  3 15  61  54   7  74   4  0  4   7 10  5 .304 .380 .479 .859  *79/D8
15           Alex Rios  124 640 2012  31 CHW AL 157 605  93 184 37  8 25  91  26   3  92   4  0  5  18 23  6 .304 .334 .516 .850      *9
16        Andre Ethier  123 618 2012  30 LAD NL 149 556  79 158 36  1 20  89  50   6 124   9  0  3  13  2  2 .284 .351 .460 .812   *9/D8
17     Kendrys Morales  121 522 2012  29 LAA AL 134 484  61 132 26  1 22  73  31   1 116   4  0  3  11  0  1 .273 .320 .467 .787     *D3
18     Alfonso Soriano  121 615 2012  36 CHC NL 151 561  68 147 33  2 32 108  44   5 153   7  0  3  18  6  2 .262 .322 .499 .821    *7/D
19     Carlos Gonzalez  119 579 2012  26 COL NL 135 518  89 157 31  5 22  85  56  11 115   2  0  3  11 20  5 .303 .371 .510 .881      *7
20           Jay Bruce  118 633 2012  25 CIN NL 155 560  89 141 35  5 34  99  62  11 155   4  0  7   5  9  3 .252 .327 .514 .841      *9
21       Jason Heyward  117 651 2012  22 ATL NL 158 587  93 158 30  6 27  82  58   1 152   2  0  3   4 21  8 .269 .335 .479 .814    *9/8
22         Jason Kubel  117 571 2012  30 ARI NL 141 506  75 128 30  4 30  90  57   7 151   2  0  6  11  1  1 .253 .327 .506 .833   *7/D9
23        Martin Prado  114 690 2012  28 ATL NL 156 617  81 186 42  6 10  70  58   2  69   2  4  9  19 17  4 .301 .359 .438 .796 *7564/3
24           Cody Ross  113 528 2012  31 BOS AL 130 476  70 127 34  1 22  81  42   3 129   3  1  6  11  2  3 .267 .326 .481 .807  *97D/8
25           Adam Dunn  112 649 2012  32 CHW AL 151 539  87 110 19  0 41  96 105   3 222   1  0  4   8  2  1 .204 .333 .468 .800   *D3/7
26      Norichika Aoki  110 588 2012  30 MIL NL 151 520  81 150 37  4 10  50  43   1  55  13  7  5   6 30  8 .288 .355 .433 .787    *987
27        Josh Reddick  110 673 2012  25 OAK AL 156 611  85 148 29  5 32  85  55   8 151   2  1  4  15 11  1 .242 .305 .463 .768    *98D
28        Justin Upton  107 628 2012  24 ARI NL 150 554 107 155 24  4 17  67  63   5 121   5  0  6   7 18  8 .280 .355 .430 .785      *9
29       David DeJesus  106 582 2012  32 CHC NL 148 506  76 133 28  8  9  50  61   1  89   9  2  4   9  7  8 .263 .350 .403 .753   *98/7
30        Hunter Pence  103 688 2012  29 TOT NL 160 617  87 156 26  4 24 104  56   2 145   7  1  7  14  5  2 .253 .319 .425 .743      *9
31         Nelson Cruz  101 642 2012  31 TEX AL 159 585  86 152 45  0 24  90  48   2 140   5  0  4   7  8  4 .260 .319 .460 .779   *9/D7
32    Desmond Jennings   97 563 2012  25 TBR AL 132 505  85 124 19  7 13  47  46   1 120   5  6  1   7 31  2 .246 .314 .388 .702   *78/9
33       Dayan Viciedo   96 543 2012  23 CHW AL 147 505  64 129 18  1 25  78  28   0 120   6  0  4  18  0  2 .255 .300 .444 .744     *7D
34       Jesus Montero   95 553 2012  22 SEA AL 135 515  46 134 20  0 15  62  29   4  99   2  0  7  15  0  2 .260 .298 .386 .685     *D2
35       Ichiro Suzuki   95 663 2012  38 TOT AL 162 629  77 178 28  6  9  55  22   5  61   2  5  5  12 29  7 .283 .307 .390 .696  *97/8D
36          Ben Revere   89 553 2012  24 MIN AL 124 511  70 150 13  6  0  32  29   0  54   3  6  4   8 40  9 .294 .333 .342 .675   *98/7
37        Delmon Young   89 608 2012  26 DET AL 151 574  54 153 27  1 18  74  20   1 112   7  0  7  20  0  2 .267 .296 .411 .707     *D7
38      Jeff Francoeur   81 603 2012  28 KCR AL 148 561  58 132 26  3 16  49  34   9 119   7  0  1  14  4  7 .235 .287 .378 .665   *9/8D
39      Brennan Boesch   77 503 2012  27 DET AL 132 470  52 113 22  2 12  54  26   1 104   5  0  2  11  6  3 .240 .286 .372 .659    *9/D

Funniest part is Ben Revere is 36th. God damn.

Someone please talk me down. I'm freaking out.

Trent Steele wrote:Someone please talk me down. I'm freaking out.

Don't freak out.

Trent Steele wrote:Someone please talk me down. I'm freaking out.

We got outbid on Cuddyer last year.

Trent Steele wrote:Someone please talk me down. I'm freaking out.

Just take every shit pitcher going against the Phills lineup this year in FanDuel.

Shore wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:37 players qualified got 500+ PA while playing primarily LF, RF, or DH.

There are only 37 players who logged 500+ PA at one of those three positions?

According to BBREF, yes... 51% of games played at LF,RF,DH, and logged 502 PA (batting title number). If I drop it to 500 PA, Stanton and Melky get added, and Delmon's 37th of 39.

Wow, so more than half of those positions across MLB are not filled by a regular? That's really surprising to me

Amaro: Ben Revere will be expected to field all three outfield positions.

realistically Delmon for $750K is no big deal. This is just taking the pressure off Ruf to come out and destroy baseballs. It just sucks that our nominal starting RF is a $750k bigot

I mean holy fucking shit this can't be real. When I saw this morning that they were interested, I thought, this blows, this guy is a jerkoff, he's going to steal ABs against LHP from Mayberry and Ruf, that sucks, waste of money, opportunity cost waste, etc. But NOW HE'S THE STARTING RF? HOW THE FUCKING FUCK?

Grote/Dajafi, come on, you guys are smart and you like Amaro and were believers in his plan this offseason. Tell me what i'm missing here? Tell me I'm overreacting.

Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:

Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:37 players qualified got 500+ PA while playing primarily LF, RF, or DH.

There are only 37 players who logged 500+ PA at one of those three positions?

According to BBREF, yes... 51% of games played at LF,RF,DH, and logged 502 PA (batting title number). If I drop it to 500 PA, Stanton and Melky get added, and Delmon's 37th of 39.

Wow, so more than half of those positions across MLB are not filled by a regular? That's really surprising to me

I'll have to dig in. BBREF PlayIndex is telling me that 39 guys got into 100+ games, 53 got into 80+, and 160 got into 20+ games. Doesn't "feel" right.

Trent Steele wrote:I mean holy fucking shit this can't be real. When I saw this morning that they were interested, I thought, this blows, this guy is a jerkoff, he's going to steal ABs against LHP from Mayberry and Ruf, that sucks, waste of money, opportunity cost waste, etc. But NOW HE'S THE STARTING RF? HOW THE FUCKING FUCK?

Grote/Dajafi, come on, you guys are smart and you like Amaro and were believers in his plan this offseason. Tell me what i'm missing here? Tell me I'm overreacting.

I don't really get it. I guess there's a chance he could recapture his 2010 output, Henderson helps him, weight loss and motivation for one last contract next year, etc. But the clubhouse stuff is either overblown or very unusual for the Phils.

Only thing I'll say about RF is he said "ideally" and then went on to say he could start the season on the DL. Could just be needling Brown and/or the reporters

Shore wrote:I'll have to dig in. BBREF PlayIndex is telling me that 39 guys got into 100+ games, 53 got into 80+, and 160 got into 20+ games. Doesn't "feel" right.

Yeah I wasn't casting doubt on your post, just surprised. Checked the Phils stats and realized no one qualified, but it still seems low. Don't most teams have at least one steady corner guy?

Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:I'll have to dig in. BBREF PlayIndex is telling me that 39 guys got into 100+ games, 53 got into 80+, and 160 got into 20+ games. Doesn't "feel" right.

Yeah I wasn't casting doubt on your post, just surprised. Checked the Phils stats and realized no one qualified, but it still seems low. Don't most teams have at least one steady corner guy?

If it's right, they have only 1 (point 3).