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by **CFP** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:49:59

FTN wrote:
CFP wrote:Until Polanco falls apart in a billion pieces, the one that has Pierre batting 8th and Polanco 2nd

neither guy has any power to speak of, but polanco probably has a little more. pierre is faster. pierre hitting 2nd is probably a better use of his contact ability and willingness to work a deep count to let rollins/victorino try and steal a bag.

Makes enough sense to me. Once we get David Wright this won't be a discussion.

by **Woody** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:55:33

Working on a photo/video montage of Juan Pierre making outs on the basepaths and otherwise fucking up hilariously. Up to 44 photos so far

by **jerseyhoya** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:15:02

FTN wrote:
jeff2sf wrote:Floppy, before we go any further, please find any quote where I said signing Pierre will kill the team. In fact I've stated multiple times that it won't. You have to stop using this straw man.

I wasn't addressing you.

Were you addressing anyone? Because I don't think anyone here is talking about Pierre playing for a month killing the team.

I'd prefer we were going with one of the other options, specifically Mayberry or Mayberry in a platoon with Nix. It's going to be frustrating watching 1/3 of our at bats be taken by guys who get played defensively like pitchers by outfielders. It's not the end of the world, but it's a decision I would have preferred went in a different direction.

by **Monkeyboy** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:20:44

Maybe we can exhaust their OFers by alternating the guys they need to play shallow with the guys they need to play deep. Move in. Move out. Move in. Move out.

I think I may have something

by **Rev_Beezer** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:33:23

Yeah, they do that kind of stuff during this series and then promote the heck out of it to give the illusion that these guys are approachable.

by **Polar Bear Phan** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:42:53

CFP wrote:Until Polanco falls apart in a billion pieces, the one that has Pierre batting 8th and Polanco 2nd

For ref, he's only at 500 million pieces right now. That's a lot of dimes.

by **laf837** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:47:54

jerseyhoya wrote:
FTN wrote:
jeff2sf wrote:Floppy, before we go any further, please find any quote where I said signing Pierre will kill the team. In fact I've stated multiple times that it won't. You have to stop using this straw man.

I wasn't addressing you.

Were you addressing anyone? Because I don't think anyone here is talking about Pierre playing for a month killing the team.

I'd prefer we were going with one of the other options, specifically Mayberry or Mayberry in a platoon with Nix. It's going to be frustrating watching 1/3 of our at bats be taken by guys who get played defensively like pitchers by outfielders. It's not the end of the world, but it's a decision I would have preferred went in a different direction.

Mayberry could have made this moot if he hit even a little. Same with Nix. Clear they don't have a load of confidence in Jberry.

by **jeff2sf** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:57:12

It's bleeping spring training. Don't we know better by now?

by **FTN** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:04:56

jeff2sf wrote:It's bleeping spring training. Don't we know better by now?

no, we don't.

teams don't fret over spring performances of established guys with long big league track records. yayberry doesn't have a long track record. so when he sucks to high heaven in spring training, they are concerned.

again, he'll get at bats. i expect he'll play against every LHP. and if he hits, he'll start to take away ABs from Pierre and Wigginton.

by **joe table** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:41:37

The Pierre thing is a little weird. Chollie has always been a 3 run HR type manager, and Mayberry is one of the few 20+ HR threats we have healthy. I would have figured he'd have earned a little more good faith, although TBF his swing has looked terrible (very long again, getting beat inside by mediocre fastballs) in the games I've seen

Hopefully putting Mayberry in a position to succeed early on vs LHP will restore Chuck's confidence in him

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 13:16:03

lolanco will bat 3rd. So we're probably looking at

vic/rollins
rollins/vic
lolanco
pence
wiggy/berry
galvis
pierre
chooch
p

6-7-8 is a toss-up. I figure Charlie batting chooch 8th for turning over the lineup if he doesn't bat him 6th.

But when CLIFFLEE pitches...

vic/rollins
rollins/vic
lolanco
pence
CLIFFLEE
wiggy/berry
galvis
pierre
chooch
p

by **Houshphandzadeh** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 13:17:49

pretty sure Charlie said in yesterday's paper that Rollins will bat 3rd for the start of the season

by **CFP** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 13:23:15

No effing way Galvis hits ahead of Chooch and Pierre

by **Werthless** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 14:03:42

Woody wrote:Working on a photo/video montage of Juan Pierre making outs on the basepaths and otherwise fucking up hilariously. Up to 44 photos so far

by **Rev_Beezer** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 14:42:07

I just read the lineups and they have me spooked. Trying to remind myself that the season hasn't even started yet and it was just spring training, and it's meaningless, and maybe john mayberry will be good again, and maybe jim thome will manage to start a game a week or so, and maybe I will kill ty wigginton.

by **bleh** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 15:14:52

I think we're stuck with Pierre. I dont see why Cholly would be staring him at the top of the lineup right now if it weren't the case. Maybe he can maintain his .400 BABIP or whatever it probably is right now.

by **CFP** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 15:19:10

bleh wrote:I think we're stuck with Pierre. I dont see why Cholly would be staring him at the top of the lineup right now if it weren't the case. Maybe he can maintain his .400 BABIP or whatever it probably is right now.

Once Polanco and Pierre's BABIPs even out, we're gonna score about .5 runs per game if Chase and Ryan aren't back

by **FTN** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 15:23:53

bleh wrote:I think we're stuck with Pierre. I dont see why Cholly would be staring him at the top of the lineup right now if it weren't the case. Maybe he can maintain his .400 BABIP or whatever it probably is right now.

theres no evidence to support this.

by **joe table** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 15:26:10

by **Bill McNeal** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 15:26:46

At the game last night they had an ask the phillies feature on the video board between innings, maybe they did it last year, but I don't recall it. They ask all the guys the same question and play all their answers back, last nights question was who on the team would you not want to go on a a long car trip with. Pretty much every ones answer was victorino. When they got to Vic he just shook his head and asked if everyone else said him.

Kendrick was the second most popular pick, I think it was CLIFF LEE who picked victorino AND Kendrick. The rationale behind Kendrick was because you never know what hes going to say, but you get the impression that everyone just fucking hates Kendrick. I wish I remembered all the answers, it was pretty funny, I hope they keep it up all season, it would be cool if they out it online somewhere.

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