Decent result I guess. That last 20 minutes was fun.

I didn't know Brek Shea was only 21. That's pretty damn exciting. I thought he was another 28 year old random MLS player.

Last 30 minutes was as fun as I've had watching the US in some time. Only thing that dampened the mood was Ricardo Clark coming on and sucking.

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I wonder if in my lifetime I will ever see the US play a game where there isn't some sort of eggregious call that went against the US.

When your player has control of the ball, is out in front of all defenders with a clear path to the goal and the opposing players pulls your players jersey out of his shorts and jerks him to the ground from behind that is a clear red card.

Somehow the US always seems to take a good screwjob.

5th Round Pick wrote:I wonder if in my lifetime I will ever see the US play a game where there isn't some sort of eggregious call that went against the US.

When your player has control of the ball, is out in front of all defenders with a clear path to the goal and the opposing players pulls your players jersey out of his shorts and jerks him to the ground from behind that is a clear red card.

Somehow the US always seems to take a good screwjob.

This just sounds all wrong, I know it's right technically but it just sounds wrong.

5th Round Pick wrote:I wonder if in my lifetime I will ever see the US play a game where there isn't some sort of eggregious call that went against the US.

When your player has control of the ball, is out in front of all defenders with a clear path to the goal and the opposing players pulls your players jersey out of his shorts and jerks him to the ground from behind that is a clear red card.

Somehow the US always seems to take a good screwjob.

I think I'm finally hitting my tolerance level with your posts. Get over yourself. Any fan of any nation on this world could moan just the same. You want to argue with australia over that result with italy in 2006? How about italy or spain vs south korea in 2002?

No one country gets all the calls. Stop whinging or fuck off.

I decided to go down to the game for the hell of it. It was a lot of fun but kind of sad we could only put 30k in the stands with probably 70% of them being Mexico supporters.

Looked like a penalty and then a red from the club level and apparently it was even more obvious on TV. It looked like we got screwed out of a corner too.

Oh well, good result considering how bad we looked for the first 60 minutes...Brek and Agueldo were pretty awesome when they came on.

Wizlah wrote:

5th Round Pick wrote:I wonder if in my lifetime I will ever see the US play a game where there isn't some sort of eggregious call that went against the US.

When your player has control of the ball, is out in front of all defenders with a clear path to the goal and the opposing players pulls your players jersey out of his shorts and jerks him to the ground from behind that is a clear red card.

Somehow the US always seems to take a good screwjob.

I think I'm finally hitting my tolerance level with your posts. Get over yourself. Any fan of any nation on this world could moan just the same. You want to argue with australia over that result with italy in 2006? How about italy or spain vs south korea in 2002?

No one country gets all the calls. Stop whinging or fuck off.

Or how about Ireland vs. France and the Thierry Henry incident, that's alot worse than a blind ref in a friendly.

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Your right. It's not just US. I love the game. I hate such eggregious calls. I do sometimes wonder about bias against US, but then as many have mentioned I see just as pitiful calls in other games. It's a shame that so many matches are marred by horrible refs.

5th Round Pick wrote:Your right. It's not just US. I love the game. I hate such eggregious calls. I do sometimes wonder about bias against US, but then as many have mentioned I see just as pitiful calls in other games. It's a shame that so many matches are marred by horrible refs.

So many? quantify and compare, please. Chart a significant increase in contentious non-bookings at games over a significant time period.

And as for a bias against the US, ask yourself this. How much of a bias could there be when you were given the 94 world over brazil, at a time when the USA was less then enthused about football?

FIFA, as is all too apparent in recent months, only really cares about one thing. You're a large market, and even if football is a ways down the list of things that american people want to play, its still a significant enough number that they want you involved.

etched Chaos wrote:
Or how about Ireland vs. France and the Thierry Henry incident, that's alot worse than a blind ref in a friendly.

Did we play france recently? I remember going to a pub. that is all.

It's a confirmation bias that's more indicative of officiating at large rather than calls just against the US.

Still, that was just a horrible non-red.

JUburton wrote:It's a confirmation bias that's more indicative of officiating at large rather than calls just against the US.

It's getting tiresome reading everywhere that officiating is getting worse, without seeing any corresponding data analysis. It can't be that hard for a serious sporting publication to do. Fifa aren't making it any easier with their talk of not using replay video (bollix - we've seen how quickly it works in both rugby and cricket) refs and chip and ball technology for goals. But still, I'd actually just once like to read about some figures, instead of an endless ream of complaints, and looking at one incident from 5 different angles, none of which show a referee's point of view.

Wizlah wrote:

JUburton wrote:It's a confirmation bias that's more indicative of officiating at large rather than calls just against the US.

It's getting tiresome reading everywhere that officiating is getting worse, without seeing any corresponding data analysis. It can't be that hard for a serious sporting publication to do. Fifa aren't making it any easier with their talk of not using replay video (bollix - we've seen how quickly it works in both rugby and cricket) refs and chip and ball technology for goals. But still, I'd actually just once like to read about some figures, instead of an endless ream of complaints, and looking at one incident from 5 different angles, none of which show a referee's point of view.

From my standpoint I feel Ref's have always sucked and will always suck because every fan watches with an inherent bias and distinctly remembers the mistakes that go against them. But I also won't go around whining about the Ref's being bias against my team, there is no challenge system like the NFL and so Yanks especially might find it hard to deal with the Officials making judgement calls on seeing things once not 100 times like we the fans do these days and then can't go back and review a challenged play.

I suppose I was talking about officiating in general and while there probably haven't been any big studies on soccer, the MLB one a year or two ago showed they missed 20% of close plays. How is one man in soccer expected to catch everything on the pitch?

*note, I'm really just getting into the sport and it's my understanding the ref does all penalty stuff, correct me if I'm wrong.

I do think that a video replay ref is long overdue. It's not hard to implement, and the time taken in checking with ref on rugby matches (and bear in mind how quickly they have to review fairly complex situations regarding trys, illegal handling of players and the like) seems to be not much more than a couple of minutes.

Any complex challenge or situation on the field is going to require the ref to coordinate with their linesmen, so I don't see how checking with a video ref is going to slow things up. So long as the refereeing team are all staying in communication with each other, I just don't see problems.

I don't think either team getting the opportunity to appeal would be a solution, though.

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