2011 Random Phillies Stuff IV: A New Injury

Postby Barry Jive » Thu Mar 31, 2011 16:57:45

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16. Cliff Lee, Philadelphia Phillies

I’ve decided that some time, when none of us were looking, Cliff Lee went to a beautiful lake with crystal clear water, a remote and spiritual lake surrounded by mountains, and he asked the ferryman who took home across if he could stay on the boat and learn the lessons of the water.

“Please let me stay,” Lee said.

“$*&$#!!#* fine, you can #%@%* stay if you $@#!$# want to stay,” said the ferryman, for he was wise and also resembled Tommy Lasorda.

Together they crossed the lake hundreds of times, thousands of times, until Cliff Lee could hear the water speak to him. And what the water told him was the secret of how to become a great pitcher.

And that’s why Lee walked 18 men in 2010 and had the best strikeout-to-walk ratio of any man who ever threw 200 innings in a single season.

It really is only a matter of time before Lee starts striking out hitters on only two pitches.


12. Chase Utley, Philadelphia Phillies


A healthy Chase Utley ranks as one the seven best players in baseball. Sadly, though, Chase Utley is not healthy. And even more than not being healthy, there’s a weird mystery about his injury. Nobody’s saying much of anything, except that he won’t start the season. In an interview with David Hale of the Courier-Post, Utley strikes a remarkably morose tone. When asked if he will play at all this season, he begins by saying, “Yeah, that’s my goal,” and ends with, “that’s definitely a possibility.”

That does not sound good at all.

Utley is so good that I keep him high on the list anyway. His swing is one of my favorites in baseball, a Veggie Samurai swing — for those of you who play that game on your phone — just a slash, blindingly fast, impossible to get the fastball by. He hits with power, he walks, he gets hit by a lot of pitches, and he has absolutely amazing defensive numbers. Maybe the defensive stats are misleading — Utley has never won a Gold Glove — but they are consistent and they are great year after year.

He’s one of the best all-around players in baseball, and the game is just not as much fun to watch with him not out there.



2. Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies

They have a fan rating thing going on over at Baseball-Reference, which is a lot of fun … I highly recommend you go over there and spend a little while rating players, though to be honest about it, if you’re like me, you might never leave.

In any case, right now Roy Halladay is ranked as the 23rd-best pitcher of all time. I’ve seen him as high as 17th and as low as 30th — it’s still somewhat fluid.

But I think we’re at that point with Halladay when we can start asking just where he fits in baseball history. He has had five great seasons, I believe:

2002: When he went 19-7 with a 2.93 ERA, led the league in WAR and did not get a single Cy Young vote.

2003: When he went 22-7 with a 3.25 ERA and won the Cy Young. He led the league with nine complete games.

2008: When he went 20-11 with a 2.78 ERA and led the league with nine complete games.

2009: When he went 17-10 with a 2.79 ERA and led the league with nine complete games.

2010: When he went 21-10 with a 2.44 ERA and led the league with nine complete games.

Pretty consistent — and pretty consistently great. The thing about Halladay is that while the numbers that most people notice (wins, ERA, complete games) stay about the same, he is constantly evolving as a pitcher. He’s striking out more batters now than ever before in his career. His walk rate, always good, has gone down the last two years (in fact, he has led the league in fewest walks in each of the last two years). He threw a lot more changeups in 2010 than ever before, and to great effect. He pulled back on his cutter and curveball a bit.

When he dominated in 2003, he threw his fastball two-thirds of the time.

When he dominated in 2010, he threw his fastball barely more than one-third of the time.

He doesn’t turn 34 until May, but already it’s clear that we are watching an all-timer with Roy Halladay. We should enjoy every minute.
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Postby joe table » Fri Apr 01, 2011 01:01:26

Moyer looks easily 55 on BBTN and talking about how Beckett blows

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Postby CrashburnAlley » Fri Apr 01, 2011 09:18:19

Dunno where else to put this, but looks like Crossing Broad stole some more content, this time from the Chris Wheeler Glossary.

http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/03/in ... .html#more
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Postby 1 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 09:23:08

yes, but they gave credit at the bottom for CWG's "contributions". you know, because i sent them an email like "hey buddy, hate the site. here's a bunch of crappy content that i haven't updated in years for you to put on your terrible page. i'll look for you at the games this weekend. i'm sure you'll be wearing an "ill" shirt because those suit you well. cheers, 1."

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Postby CrashburnAlley » Fri Apr 01, 2011 09:26:02

1 wrote:i'll look for you at the games this weekend. i'm sure you'll be wearing an "ill" shirt [and a Puma hat] because those suit you well."


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Postby PA_Dan » Fri Apr 01, 2011 17:53:11

CBP didn't even make the top 10...

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Postby Bucky » Fri Apr 01, 2011 18:09:31

Hey, did anyone hear about the Phillies-only radio station? Plays the games too. You need an HD radio. It's 98.1 HD4. Finally I can listen to games in my 'hood without 1210 getting trounced on by the nearby KYW tower....

Supposed to be a lot of other Phillies programming too, including music hours picked by players....

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Postby Bucky » Fri Apr 01, 2011 18:13:36

AHA, Phillies 24/7 it's called...

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Postby swishnicholson » Fri Apr 01, 2011 18:33:17

Barry Jive wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdjVIY5BCM[/youtube]


Thanks for the video. When I saw Housh's photo I figured that was Mayberry's dad.
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Postby lethal » Fri Apr 01, 2011 20:51:02

PA_Dan wrote:CBP didn't even make the top 10...

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I love how the Dodger Stadium picture is of Hamels pitching in what looks to be game 5 of the 2008 NLCS.

I'd rate CBP somewhere in that 5-8 range myself.

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Postby mcare89 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 20:55:30

lethal wrote:
PA_Dan wrote:CBP didn't even make the top 10...

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I love how the Dodger Stadium picture is of Hamels pitching in what looks to be game 5 of the 2008 NLCS.

I'd rate CBP somewhere in that 5-8 range myself.

Of those, I've been to PNC and Camden Yards.

PNC is gorgeous. Great park. No objections.

However, Oriole Park in 2010 when I was there does not hold a candle to CBP. I must call shenanigans.

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Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Apr 01, 2011 22:56:28

Who is the emergency catcher now that Werth is gone?

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Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Apr 01, 2011 23:42:58

jerseyhoya wrote:Who is the emergency catcher now that Werth is gone?


Naturally, it'd be Pete Orr.

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Postby lethal » Sat Apr 02, 2011 00:43:11

It isn't Exxon?

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Postby UDHL » Sat Apr 02, 2011 06:33:30

So I was watching a replay of the game and noticed the Phillies had a B patch on. I didn't get the Philly broadcast so I never caught what the B stood, so can anyone tell who or what they are honoring with that B patch?

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Postby CrashburnAlley » Sat Apr 02, 2011 06:35:54

UDHL wrote:So I was watching a replay of the game and noticed the Phillies had a B patch on. I didn't get the Philly broadcast so I never caught what the B stood, so can anyone tell who or what they are honoring with that B patch?


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Postby The Savior » Sat Apr 02, 2011 07:31:14

UDHL wrote:So I was watching a replay of the game and noticed the Phillies had a B patch on. I didn't get the Philly broadcast so I never caught what the B stood, so can anyone tell who or what they are honoring with that B patch?


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Postby drsmooth » Sat Apr 02, 2011 08:37:20

Say, this NY Times Magazine feature on a certain quartet of national league pitchers looks entertaining

apparently includes some Nate Silver analysis (haven't read it yet)

EDIT: not so much entertaining, but the other thing: annoyingly/pissily written. Schmidt caught out in a closing quote that feels typical of his media management over the years.

anyway, eff you Pat Jordan, you never had any stuff whatsoever - and you still don't.
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Postby swishnicholson » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:08:24

drsmooth wrote:Say, this NY Times Magazine feature on a certain quartet of national league pitchers looks entertaining

apparently includes some Nate Silver analysis (haven't read it yet)

EDIT: not so much entertaining, but the other thing: annoyingly/pissily written. Schmidt caught out in a closing quote that feels typical of his media management over the years.

anyway, eff you Pat Jordan, you never had any stuff whatsoever - and you still don't.


Huh, yeah, I just logged on to post just about the same thing. Pat Jordan sets out to unearth the secret of the Phillies four aces and instead discovers he's a cranky old man and none of these guys are Seaver or Spahn or Gibson. And certainly not Nolan Ryan-he was SCARY. Plus they never would have kept Pat Jordan waiting for an interview.

Sample quote, just for tone:

Mentally, he learned a lot from Harvey Dorfman’s book, “The Mental ABC’s of Pitching.” Dorfman has become a psychological guru for confused pitchers. His book is full of simplicities cloaked in athletic jargon that comforts pitchers who have never thought much about their craft. (Seaver always had his own theories about pitching.)




Too bad, I sometimes like Jordan's writing.
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Postby WheelsFellOff » Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:16:47

It's those little parenthetical asides that really convey the "pissy little shit" tone of the piece.
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