Mike Piazza Territory

Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 14:00:24

I am bumping this thread for obvious reasons. It's been 3 years now. McCarthy's contract expires at the end of the year. I asked Brantt if he had Rob Brooks' email but he couldn't find it. We all need to take time to e-mail Scott and Rob and let them know our feelings.

We cannot sit by idly and watch this broadcast unfold like this. If they hear from enough people, they will begin to change their minds. I really believe we can have an impact here. If anyone has Brooks' or Palmer's e-mail, we need to get a letter together (I will draft it and you guys can change some words around) and we all need to send it to them. Even 10 or 15 emails could help.

Should I assume Palmer's is still the same as on page one of this thread? Anyone have the Brooks e-mail?

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 14:40:49

Today's broadcast shows how bad things are. Dear God. Harry must be rolling over in his grave.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby Napalm » Thu Jun 07, 2012 14:42:05

CFP wrote:Today's broadcast shows how bad things are. Dear God. Harry must be rolling over in his grave.

tmac is the generic company family pbp man. comcast is pretty terrible too, he has to do some of the shit

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 14:49:32

I e-mailed Scott Palmer, we'll see what he says. I told him I wanted to meet with him and Rob Brooks, so if anyone's up for that and they say yes, let me know and maybe we can go down there. If not, I will try and pass along what happens in the phone call.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby ReadingPhilly » Thu Jun 07, 2012 15:18:04

You've turned into quite the angry person

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby Woody » Thu Jun 07, 2012 15:22:01

CFP wrote:I e-mailed Scott Palmer, we'll see what he says. I told him I wanted to meet with him and Rob Brooks, so if anyone's up for that and they say yes, let me know and maybe we can go down there. If not, I will try and pass along what happens in the phone call.


You want to meet with him? Why?
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby Slowhand » Thu Jun 07, 2012 15:55:16

He sucks, but Jesus, dude, take a breath.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 18:26:35

ReadingPhilly wrote:You've turned into quite the angry person


No I haven't. I've just turned into someone with a backbone, something the medication I was on previously didn't allow me to do. I just like doing stuff so other people don't have to do it. Good or bad. I heavily complimented Scott and LA in my e-mail to Palmer, and told them the good and the bad of the broadcast pairings.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby FTN » Thu Jun 07, 2012 18:39:26

yolo

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 18:45:12

Yeah pretty much when you spend a half hour on the phone with the FDA reporting your near death with one of the drugs on their "watch list" you kind of feel like doing anything. If anyone seriously just wants me to make a thread to answer questions so everyone knows what's going on, I'm willing to do that.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby Rockinghorse » Thu Jun 07, 2012 18:46:26

Fan revolt last season got the Rangers to undo a mistaken TV hire (John Rhadigan). He had mock twitter accounts and tons of message board threads too. But that all happened in the first couple months after he was hired, allowing the Rangers to gracefully change course (they sent him back to the studio show). Phils/TMac is more complicated.

I wouldn't spam or personally stalk anyone, but emails, letters and phone calls can make an impact. Personalized notes from many people works way better than a form letter even if it has tons of signatures.

It sounds obvious to people on here, but it wouldn't hurt to list the top message points about TMac so the Phillies can see recurring themes in the correspondence. Listing accurate TMac quotes and dates helps too.

And stay away from anything about his appearance or calling him a Mets fan. That's fine on the internet but it will discredit you to anyone within the organization.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:21:06

From what I remember, that was a bit of a different story. Rhadigan didn't know the simple rules of baseball, and was messing stuff up like not knowing a foul tip and a player being allowed to run to first after a passed ball. Yeah, that's unacceptable.

My correspondence so far:

Dear Scott,

I want to first thank you for taking time for reading this. I cannot help but e-mail you about this because I am sitting here watching Gregg Murphy interview Paula Abdul in the fourth inning of this game. This needs to stop.

I have been watching this team since 1996, and I grew up with Harry, Richie (only for one year sadly), LA, Kruker, Wheels, Kent, Andy, and everyone in between. I now exclusively listen to the radio broadcast because the television broadcast has become almost unbearable to watch. I know in the past you had responded to people from the Phillies message board that I frequent. You had said to "give things time" for Tom, Wheels, Sarge and everybody to settle in. I have given it 3.5 years, and things are getting worse. I have been following broadcasters for a very long time, and even went to a sports broadcasting camp 10 years ago because I too wanted to be a baseball broadcaster some day. It's still a dream of mine. I watch baseball games with a near addiction, and the Phillies' broadcast does not match up. Scott and LA are FANTASTIC. ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. I wanted that to be in caps so you understand how unbelievably awesome they are.

I have heard Tom is a great guy, and that Wheels is too, but this broadcast is not up to par anymore. I know you have responded to people in the past, but I don't think that's good enough for me anymore. I want to meet with you and Rob Brooks to give you a fan perspective of what is happening with the television broadcast. I would love to hear back from you, Scott. Thanks for all your work on Action News over the years, and thank you for taking on this job with the team. You've been great. If you want to forward this to Rob, please let me know. I would love to discuss this stuff with both of you.

Thank you,
XXXXXX


Hi XXXXX,

Thanks for checking in with your views of our broadcast team. Paula Abdul was interviewed because she is representing Major League Baseball’s Prostate Awareness Campaign. It’s a message that all men should hear. It’s unfortunate that you no longer accept our front office responding to your criticisms unless you can tell us what you think in person. If there comes a time when Rob Brooks decides to meet with fans I will make sure that he gets in touch with you. Again, thanks for taking the time to let us know how you feel about our Television Broadcast.

Best Regards,

Scott Palmer

Dir. Public Affairs

Philadelphia Phillies



Thank you, Scott.

I know we are all frustrated right now, but I would have been sending this e-mail if we were 28-31 or 59-0. I saw Joe Torre in the booth, and I knew immediately what was going on. I didn't really need to see Paula Abdul to understand. Prostate cancer is a very serious thing. Seven weeks ago, I almost died as a result of an epidural hematoma caused by drugs I was taking for my stomach that didn't work. I understand life is precious. Joe Torre is a fantastic ambassador for the game, and I knew exactly what he was saying without even having to hear. I don't believe Paula Abdul has anything to do with the Phillies, baseball, or the ComcastSportsNet telecast. I prefer to hear from Scott and Larry and that's just the way things are right now. I would love to talk to Rob, because baseball is essentially my entire life. I am not angry by any stretch of the imagination. I just want to have an open and honest discussion about things. That's all. Thanks again Scott.


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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby bleh » Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:24:26

whatever the format for Scott Palmer's address is, Rob Brooks' is probably the same.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:27:09

Probably. I just want to have a discussion with them. I have free time. I'll do it. I'm not trying to get Tom McCarthy fired. That's really not even my main goal. I'm tired of seeing Paula Abdul, cutaways to the crowd every two seconds for stupid stuff, the amount of talking, etc. It has to stop. Because it can stop if they change their styles. I don't really want to see anybody lose their job. I know a lot of us hate Tom McCarthy. I just kind of want the inside story on what this guy does for a living, how he works, how hard he works, and how much of the broadcast is directed by Rob Brooks and the cameramen and this stuff, etc.

Here's the Rhadigan stuff, with a little blurb that may interest us:

Rhadigan wasn't getting significantly better: POSSIBLY TRUE. Recently, Rhadigan incorrectly identified a fouled bunt attempt with two strikes by Elvis Andrus. That's a strikeout. It was an embarrassing mistake. And maybe it would have been fixed the second time it happened, but in baseball, something kind of out of the ordinary happens almost nightly. Nadel's grasp of the rules and the nuances of the game are what make him a soon-to-be Hall of Famer. It also potentially makes anybody else seem a little less informed. Everybody knew the broadcasts would be somewhat rough at the start, but they were rougher than expected. Perhaps, Rhadigan should have been given a series of games during the offseason to broadcast as simulations. Maybe that would have been ideal. Not sure how practical, though. Of the few broadcasts I watched on TV, there were some moments when Rhadigan seemed to be finding his groove and others where it seemed like a step backwards. The Rangers use those TV broadcasts as three-hour infomercials for selling tickets. They realized they can't afford to let the ticket pitchman slowly grow into the role.

• The Rangers erred by choosing Rhadigan over more experienced play-by-play voices: FALSE. The Rangers had a slam-dunk choice - Dallas WT White graduate Scott Franzke, who learned the finer points of broadcasting as Eric Nadel's pre- and post-game host on KRLD and then went on to Philadelphia to learn more from Harry Kalas. The only problem for the Rangers: When Kalas passed away, the Philies moved Franzke into his chair. Franzke, like Nadel, loves the radio broadcast, which has a completely different feel than TV. Faced with losing him, the Phillies realized what a valuable young broadcasting talent they had on their hands. An increase in pay and the chance to remain on radio made the Phils the winner. Or maybe, he was just a package deal with Cliff Lee.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby PrattRules » Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:29:00

O boy.
"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it." -George Costanza

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby Slowhand » Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:47:02

this is all a bit much
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby bleh » Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:48:16

CFP wrote:Probably. I just want to have a discussion with them.


I think your best strategy would be to put your efforts towards getting more people to write in to complain.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby Bucky » Thu Jun 07, 2012 20:08:38

CFP, you've made yourself irrelevant on the basis of the Paula Abdul argument. You shoulda stuck to the issue you want fixed- that wheeler and mccarthy stink like feet. throwing out the paula abdul thing was a non-issue, and now they are associating you with that viewpoint instead of the real problem. They're probably lumping you in with the people who complain about the alexander hamilton commercials now.

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Re: Mike Piazza Territory

Postby CFP » Thu Jun 07, 2012 20:31:36

Bucky wrote:CFP, you've made yourself irrelevant on the basis of the Paula Abdul argument. You shoulda stuck to the issue you want fixed- that wheeler and mccarthy stink like feet. throwing out the paula abdul thing was a non-issue, and now they are associating you with that viewpoint instead of the real problem. They're probably lumping you in with the people who complain about the alexander hamilton commercials now.


Then I want a chance to prove to them in-person ALL of my thoughts instead of just being lumped in with one thought. And if they don't want to do that, I understand. No hard feelings.

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