Marlins new ballpark

by **Phan In Phlorida** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 01:52:12

BigEd76 wrote:you gotta see this, especially the video

and you thought the Shea/Citi apple was bad...

Well, that's, uh... different.

Hope they don't have a 30 second ad prior to the 11 second celebratory display.

by **swishnicholson** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 01:55:18

That's cool. I hope it comes to pass and works out well. I always loved Grooms' Philadelphia Cornucopia (can't find a good image, though). and in the only baseball image I see right now, he has a Yankee missing badly, so that's also cool.

by gr » Fri Dec 18, 2009 20:21:06

I'm confused. Based on the bottom photo at that link above, is the ballpark also part of the airport?

by **BigEd76** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 20:26:12

A series of colorful tiled pathways by Carlos Cruz-Diez that will be located in the ballpark’s west side plaza entrance (see image at left of his work at the airport in Caracas)....

by **BigEd76** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 21:59:32

This stadium is gonna mess with people's minds...

Cruz-Diez's pavement design will be colorful and directional, meaning they will help navigate fans from the parking lots to the ballpark.

"Cruz-Diez proposed a paving pattern for the walkways that crisscross the plaza. His work is very geometric, and optical-illusionist kind of work," Spring said. "So the pattern that Cruz-Diez has proposed is very distinctive. It's a really wonderful, beautiful colorful treatment of the plaza. But at the same time, it has a practical purpose, as well."

Expanding the artwork to the Super Columns, Arsham has come up with a illusion that promises to have people wondering if they are seeing things.

"Daniel's idea was to light the columns in a way where the light gradually comes up and crawls up the columns, so the illusion from a distance is the columns will appear and disappear," Spring said. "In Daniel's words, it's almost as though the building is breathing, and the columns are appearing and disappearing with each and every inhale and exhale. It's very dramatic."

Arsham's second project hits close to home for the up-and-coming artist. As a child, he attended Miami Dolphins and University of Miami football games at the Orange Bowl. What stood out to him was the actual lettering of Orange Bowl on the building.

To commemorate the grounds, Arsham has decided to replicate the lettering on the former football stadium.

"His take was the letters fell off the side of the stadium, and embedded themselves on the east side of the plaza of the new ballpark," Spring said. "Essentially, you have full-scale letters, spelling Orange Bowl that are scattered across the eastern plaza of the building."

The letters actually are on the ground. Some are embedded in the staircases. The way they're stationed, the letters can spell out different words. They can spell ORANGE BOWL or GAME or WON, depending on where people are standing.

"Together, these three artists are good representatives of our community," Spring said. "What they've designed really enliven the ballpark and make it something that will be distinguished by both baseball and art."

by **CalvinBall** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 22:04:16

by **Fusilli Jerry** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 22:13:20

BigEd76 wrote:
....As a child, he attended Miami Dolphins and University of Miami football games at the Orange Bowl. What stood out to him was the actual lettering of Orange Bowl on the building.

Really?? That's what stood out to him? What a waste of a ticket.

by **pacino** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 22:19:54

the columns are good, the letters are utter dreck

i'm amazed at how many ballparks try to create charm. ballparks get charm from the events that happen on the field and the environs of the neighborhood around it. fabricating this stuff just seems like a big farce. this is why i've never been a huge CBP fan, because of the location.

by **Bucky** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 00:14:31

So that animation was really done by Terry Gilliam, right?

by **Woody** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 00:52:01

This is like if Jim Henson, David Lynch and Dan Brown built a stadium

by **phatj** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:09:43

What function do those columns serve?

by **Woody** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:37:07

phatj wrote:What function do those columns serve?

1. cost money
2. look cool

by **phatj** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:57:03

Woody wrote:
phatj wrote:What function do those columns serve?

1. cost money
2. look cool

I figured.

Hopefully the cost of this thing will cripple the Marlins franchise for decades.

by **jamiethekiller** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:59:42

phatj wrote:
Woody wrote:
phatj wrote:What function do those columns serve?

1. cost money
2. look cool

I figured.

Hopefully the cost of this thing will cripple the Marlins franchise for decades.

aren't they for supporting the retractable roof?

by **Woody** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:09:12

jamiethekiller wrote:
phatj wrote:
Woody wrote:
phatj wrote:What function do those columns serve?

1. cost money
2. look cool

I figured.

Hopefully the cost of this thing will cripple the Marlins franchise for decades.

aren't they for supporting the retractable roof?

could be? i'm no Architect. dammit, finally we have a use for Cartersdad and he's not here

by **phatj** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:11:40

jamiethekiller wrote:
phatj wrote:
Woody wrote:
phatj wrote:What function do those columns serve?

1. cost money
2. look cool

I figured.

Hopefully the cost of this thing will cripple the Marlins franchise for decades.

aren't they for supporting the retractable roof?

That makes sense, thanks.

I still hope the cost will cripple the franchise.

by **joe table** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:22:23

I kinda like the letters thing, but only if the view pointing north towards Philly spells Cantu for all eternity

by **cartersDad26** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 13:18:25

Woody wrote:
jamiethekiller wrote:
phatj wrote:
Woody wrote:
phatj wrote:What function do those columns serve?

1. cost money
2. look cool

I figured.

Hopefully the cost of this thing will cripple the Marlins franchise for decades.

aren't they for supporting the retractable roof?

could be? i'm no Architect. dammit, finally we have a use for Cartersdad and he's not here

lol - i'm here i'm here. let me take a look.

by **swishnicholson** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 13:24:21

Eh, I kind of like it. At least they're doing something that says "Miami" instead of creating some retro urban experience that never existed there (I'm all for cities creating a retro urban experience where it DID exist, however). I like the letters, which may not be too sophisticated, but are fun and interactive. If you're going to sell going to the ballpark these days you have to make it an experience, and it would be silly to think you could recreate the experience you are going to have in Philadelphia or New York or Chicago. I don't like gimmicky things on the field that affect play, but as for adding bells and whistles outside that make people want to congregate, go for it.

by **cartersDad26** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 13:24:58

Yes they are supporting the retractable roof structure for when it is open. They are absolutely massive which I suppose is to be expected supporting such a huge roof - but they have no scale in the space and have an extremely heavy handedness and lack of proportion. Having several more slender ones would have been better as they would have a better proportion and would help to create more of a place in that plaza when the roof is closed.

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