Marlins new ballpark

Postby kruker » Tue Mar 24, 2009 17:03:08

Approved

The Florida Marlins put more than a decade of political and financial frustration behind them Monday when Miami-Dade commissioners delivered the team what two World Series titles and previous ownership could not: a permanent new home and a sexy new name.

Baseball fans, meet the Miami Marlins.

''Ten years is a long time. Eventually it was going to come. Wow, I'm very happy, very pleased,'' said team owner Jeffrey Loria.

Standing near Loria, Miami Mayor Manny Diaz said, ``Finally. I never had any doubt it would happen.''


The new ballpark will have 37,000 seats under a retractable roof, with about 60 suites and new parking facilities. The team hopes to take the field on Opening Day 2012.

The Marlins, despite their winning ways, are consistently among the bottom in baseball in payroll and attendance.

The financial breakdown on the $634 million stadium plan is top-heavy for the county. Miami-Dade is on the hook for $297 million from tourist taxes, another $50 million from a separate bond referendum, and $12 million for road and utility repairs.

Miami pledged last week to spend $94 million on the parking structures, $13 million toward stadium construction, and $12 million for other improvements.

Miami will also operate the garage and pay the yearly debt payment, though the Marlins have agreed to buy most of the expected 6,000 parking spaces at between $10 and $12 over the 35-year stadium contract. The Marlins keep any profits made from selling those spots


Commissioner Audrey Edmonson asked Loria if he had any intention of selling the club after the stadium is built.

''Absolutely not,'' replied Loria.

Last week, on the eve of the Miami vote, the Marlins agreed to give a much greater share of profits back to the city and county should Loria sell after construction.
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Postby steagles » Tue Mar 24, 2009 17:04:50

retractable roof in hurricane alley?


that doesn't seem like a very good idea.
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Oh. I'm replying to a Steagles post. Um. OK.
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Postby JFLNYC » Tue Mar 24, 2009 17:04:58

Good for them (although that seems to be about 36,000 seats more than are necessary).
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Postby kruker » Tue Mar 24, 2009 17:19:56

JFLNYC wrote:Good for them (although that seems to be about 36,000 seats more than are necessary).


The same could have been said when we moved into CBP. Philadelphia Metro Population:5,116,830. Miami Metro Population:5,413,212. Pretty comparable, the Miami metro area is about 66% larger than the size of Philly, so take that into consideration regarding the population (roughly 6K sq miles for miami and 3.8 K sq miles for Miami). I'd also keep in mind how terrible the location of the current stadium is, plus summer weather that isn't ideal, especially for an older population.

Last 10 years attendance at the Vet (first year there is 94, so that explains the abnormally high figure):
39,843

28,383

22,243

18,403

21,182

22,535

19,911

22,847

19,977

28,973


Last ten years for the Marlins (starts at 1999, every year prior was in excess of 20K):
16,906

15,134

15,765

10,038

16,290

22,091

22,792

14,384

16,919

16,688
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Postby JFLNYC » Tue Mar 24, 2009 17:49:50

Just havin' a little fun at the Marlins' expense is all.
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Postby kruker » Tue Mar 24, 2009 18:05:30

JFLNYC wrote:Just havin' a little fun at the Marlins' expense is all.


I know, but a lot of people seem to think baseball in Miami will never work.
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Postby Rococo4 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 21:25:36

they should renovate Olympic Stadium and move to Montreal

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Postby Wolfgang622 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:04:36

Buried on page two of that article is the part that no one is talking about, and I'm not sure why:

All revenues, including naming rights, concession sales, and advertising go to the Marlins. If the county, city or Marlins can't find proper financing by July 1, any of the entities can kill the deal.


This is Florida we're talking about. An escape clause like that is pretty significant.

I'll believe this is happening when ground is broken, and not before.
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Postby Bob Loblaw » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:51:21

FTN wrote:I've been to Miami for a Dolphins game, and I remember having to drive forever to get out to the stadium. If I lived in Miami, I highly doubt I'd go to a ton of games for that fact alone.


It's not a very nice area, either.
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Postby BigEd76 » Tue May 12, 2009 22:24:43

New details of the ballpark

Pool in left field (thx DBacks)
Porch in right field (thx Mets)

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Postby SideshowBob » Tue May 12, 2009 22:39:16

BigEd76 wrote:New details of the ballpark

Pool in left field (thx DBacks)
Porch in right field (thx Mets)


If the porch doesn't extend over the field of play (which is what the article states) then is it really a porch? Wouldn't it simply be an outfield upper deck then?

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Postby BigEd76 » Wed May 27, 2009 16:34:02

The retractable roof

The hope at the Marlins' new park is not to have any scenarios where the ball hits the ceiling.

"It's going to be hard to hit it -- we don't expect any incidences where a ball will hit the roof and come down," Samson said.


Sounds like a challenge for Ryan

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Postby TheDude24 » Wed May 27, 2009 19:50:26

"Retractable roof will prevent delays, loss of attendance"

Are people escaping through the opening where a roof would be at Dolphin Stadium?

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Postby CalvinBall » Wed May 27, 2009 20:40:36

TheDude24 wrote:"Retractable roof will prevent delays, loss of attendance"

Are people escaping through the opening where a roof would be at Dolphin Stadium?


I don't know if you are kidding but I will bite. With a roof they can control the temperature so more people might be willing to go catch a game to escape the heat.

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Postby TheDude24 » Wed May 27, 2009 21:19:58

CalvinBall wrote:
TheDude24 wrote:"Retractable roof will prevent delays, loss of attendance"

Are people escaping through the opening where a roof would be at Dolphin Stadium?


I don't know if you are kidding but I will bite. With a roof they can control the temperature so more people might be willing to go catch a game to escape the heat.


I was kidding. lol.

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Postby VFB » Wed May 27, 2009 21:39:14

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Postby BigEd76 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 15:17:45

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Postby BigEd76 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 01:06:55

you gotta see this, especially the video

and you thought the Shea/Citi apple was bad...

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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Dec 17, 2009 01:10:47

Do the first 5000 fans get acid they can drop to make that trippy to look at instead of really embarrassing and queer?

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Postby philliesphhan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 01:41:44

jerseyhoya wrote:Do the first 5000 fans get acid they can drop to make that trippy to look at instead of really embarrassing and queer?


5000?
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