The death of the newspaper industry (now w/ more zolecki)

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Jun 05, 2009 22:05:04

FTN wrote:This is kind of the way I envision it working.

A site like Philly.com will buy the local Philadelphia newspapers, or the newspapers will all consolidate and form one website. The newspapers would retain their best writers, who would continue to write original content. The site would also continue to purchase general stories from the AP. But the site would add social networking stuff, a facebook like application, as well as organization tools, stuff like zagat, an ebay type place. Basically, a lot of what these sites already offer, but juiced up more functional versions, stuff that people want to use, stuff people need to use every day.

Right now, no one HAS to go to the Inquirer's site to get news, or to the Boston Globe's site to get news, they can go to hundreds of free sites that offer the same content for free. These sites need to find unique applications, tools, and features that people need and can't get anywhere else.


But the Daily News at least has, or at least used to have, great sports columnists. And who else would offer a more in depth look at the local sports? As far as actual NEWS goes...who cares?

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Jun 05, 2009 22:06:05

I care about the local news, and you can't get that anywhere else but the regional papers.

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Postby Philly the Kid » Fri Jun 05, 2009 22:14:43

It's too easy to copy and paste and share stuff.

What COULD work, is if many many newspapers created a consortium. If paying $4.99 a month got me access to LA Times, NY Times, Philly etc... ESPN insider I don't know... but a lot of stuff. THEN, maybe I'd just do it rather than wait for it to show up boot-leg or have someone with an account let me in on their pasword or copy and paste for me...

Too many headlines come and go quick, I'm not paying for 3 day old game recap, or some news of the day a week later...

Its an interesting thing about what is journalism like a magazine or book that you need to pay for, and what is information that is just "out there", like Wiki, etc...

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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Jun 05, 2009 22:37:04

Houshphandzadeh wrote:I care about the local news, and you can't get that anywhere else but the regional papers.


Right..I live in Delaware County and I would actually subscribe to the Delaware County Times. But maybe the question is...would the citizens of Philadelphia really read or care about the local (Inquirer/Daily News) paper?

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Postby pacino » Fri Jun 05, 2009 22:46:43

just force aggregators to start paying
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Postby ReadingPhilly » Fri Jun 05, 2009 23:03:12

i love reading the paper every day

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Postby Harpua » Fri Jun 05, 2009 23:11:43

pacino wrote:just force aggregators to start aying


This has been brought up in many a newspaper survival discussion, but as long as places like Google News redirect you to the original source, you'll get an uptick in hits and better numbers for advertisers (I'm operating under the assumption that if you charge for aggregation, some aggregators will dump the source.) Now, as far as sites copying and pasting whole blocks of text without a link, that's a different matter I suppose. I'm not opposed to the idea, but it definitely can't be the sole plan. I also have a feeling this has been tried before, though obviously I'm not sure.

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Postby CalvinBall » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:00:59

It is Todd's Brithday today according to Facebook. Happy Birthday dude.

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Postby ashton » Mon Jan 31, 2011 04:17:47

It looks like the Philadelphia Daily News will no longer be free online starting in two weeks.

http://phillydailynews.newspaperdirect. ... iewer.aspx

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Postby philliesphhan » Mon Jan 31, 2011 05:31:52

Guess that's the end of their site then
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Postby uncle milt » Mon Jan 31, 2011 08:57:08

but can i at least still get the bleacher report for free?!

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Postby TheFrank » Mon Jan 31, 2011 09:48:56

They also raised the price of the paper to $1.00
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Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jan 31, 2011 09:50:36

my plan was to buy a bunch of the covers when i got my own place to frame and hang up in some sort of man room. now i have to register to read it and i assume buy things. that dream is officially dead.

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Postby Grotewold » Mon Jan 31, 2011 09:54:17

ashton wrote:It looks like the Philadelphia Daily News will no longer be free online starting in two weeks.

http://phillydailynews.newspaperdirect. ... iewer.aspx


Did they intentionally peg this to the precise moment their content bordered on irrelevance?

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Postby Woody » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:09:18

Will they charge extra for the horrific auto-play videos, or will those still be included for free in the overall user experience?
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Postby thephan » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:50:30

They are going to charge for THAT horrific interface? I wouild not mind paying something for access, they have people to pay, but that interface is dreadful.
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Postby JFLNYC » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:10:26

Grotewold wrote:
ashton wrote:It looks like the Philadelphia Daily News will no longer be free online starting in two weeks.

http://phillydailynews.newspaperdirect. ... iewer.aspx


Did they intentionally peg this to the precise moment their content bordered on irrelevance?


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Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:20:23

I like getting the Inky, and I still do, but the DN is, has been, and always will be cage liner.
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Postby cshort » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:24:46

You can still go to the philly.com com site to avoid the new garbage they have. Don't know how long that will last. Fitting that The Dump is sponsoring it.
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Postby Grotewold » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:42:55

I'll give the papers credit for deploying Gelb and Murphy pretty well on social media. But that's about all they've done right since like 1997.

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