Philly the Kid wrote:I think Nicole Mitchell is more developed than Esperanza...

Nicole's good, and fully 16 years older than Spalding

Don't hate because she won stuff; that's good for jazz

ES is a fine bass player, an ok singer, a terrif jazz emissary

drsmooth wrote:

Philly the Kid wrote:I think Nicole Mitchell is more developed than Esperanza...

Nicole's good, and fully 16 years older than Spalding

Don't hate because she won stuff; that's good for jazz

ES is a fine bass player, an ok singer, a terrif jazz emissary

No hate at all. I'm glad she's there and she has a persona that will continue to bring her opportunities. She's not a great singer though... we'll see where she ends up...

speaking of jazz vocalists, if (as I am doing right now) you marinate in a few hours of Ella Fitzgerald (as one obviously singular example), you begin to appreciate just how extraordinary the aural pleasures of female interpreters of popular song can be, relative to, say, gaga

drsmooth wrote:speaking of jazz vocalists, if (as I am doing right now) you marinate in a few hours of Ella Fitzgerald (as one obviously singular example), you begin to appreciate just how extraordinary the aural pleasures of female interpreters of popular song can be, relative to, say, gaga

Gaga is Madonna light... Italian from NYC, pop meets dance -trying to be outlandish...

Now that Earl Hagen could write a tune!

I luv almost all the Jazz Divas especially Carmen McCrae, Betty Carter -- of course Ella, Sarah, Billie -- but Betty Roche, Ivy Anderson, Lil Green, Ma Rainey, Uma Mae Carlisle -- and the white girls Connor, O'Day, Peggy Lee -- and let's not forget Dakota Staton, Nancy Wilson, Dinah Washington ...

There are some fine younger gen singers right now, but few if any with the depth and character of some of these legends...

Philly the Kid wrote:

drsmooth wrote:speaking of jazz vocalists, if (as I am doing right now) you marinate in a few hours of Ella Fitzgerald (as one obviously singular example), you begin to appreciate just how extraordinary the aural pleasures of female interpreters of popular song can be, relative to, say, gaga

Gaga is Madonna light... Italian from NYC, pop meets dance -trying to be outlandish...

Now that Earl Hagen could write a tune!

I luv almost all the Jazz Divas especially Carmen McCrae, Betty Carter -- of course Ella, Sarah, Billie -- but Betty Roche, Ivy Anderson, Lil Green, Ma Rainey, Uma Mae Carlisle -- and the white girls Connor, O'Day, Peggy Lee -- and let's not forget Dakota Staton, Nancy Wilson, Dinah Washington ...

There are some fine younger gen singers right now, but few if any with the depth and character of some of these legends...

Smoothette and I had the pleasure of basking in a Betty Carter performance, at SUNY Purchase(!?!?!) , before she (Carter) left us

Ella Fitzgerald at Saratoga Performing Arts Center, past her prime, but prime-er than most

Dinah, so fine

Kid, catch Gretchen Parlato if you get a chance - she can't sing with the ladies you've named, but she's got a great ear for material

For some reason I'm a fan of Stacey Kent's "sex and the city" sibilant s's; she does a sensitive, sexy version of Billie Holiday's Violets For Your Furs

Another gal with not such a great voice, but great ears, who's dead now, was Susannah McCorkle. Took a dive off a 6-story NYC brownstone 10 years ago. Lovely recordings of Harry Warren and the incomparable Yip Harburg.

drsmooth wrote:

Philly the Kid wrote:

drsmooth wrote:speaking of jazz vocalists, if (as I am doing right now) you marinate in a few hours of Ella Fitzgerald (as one obviously singular example), you begin to appreciate just how extraordinary the aural pleasures of female interpreters of popular song can be, relative to, say, gaga

Gaga is Madonna light... Italian from NYC, pop meets dance -trying to be outlandish...

Now that Earl Hagen could write a tune!

I luv almost all the Jazz Divas especially Carmen McCrae, Betty Carter -- of course Ella, Sarah, Billie -- but Betty Roche, Ivy Anderson, Lil Green, Ma Rainey, Uma Mae Carlisle -- and the white girls Connor, O'Day, Peggy Lee -- and let's not forget Dakota Staton, Nancy Wilson, Dinah Washington ...

There are some fine younger gen singers right now, but few if any with the depth and character of some of these legends...

Smoothette and I had the pleasure of basking in a Betty Carter performance, at SUNY Purchase(!?!?!) , before she (Carter) left us

Ella Fitzgerald at Saratoga Performing Arts Center, past her prime, but prime-er than most

Dinah, so fine

Kid, catch Gretchen Parlato if you get a chance - she can't sing with the ladies you've named, but she's got a great ear for material

For some reason I'm a fan of Stacey Kent's "sex and the city" sibilant s's; she does a sensitive, sexy version of Billie Holiday's Violets For Your Furs

Another gal with not such a great voice, but great ears, who's dead now, was Susannah McCorkle. Took a dive off a 6-story NYC brownstone 10 years ago. Lovely recordings of Harry Warren and the incomparable Yip Harburg.

Thanks, names are vagule familiar of 2 of those, but don't know their sound. I'll put together a little list of some current or recent singers that I think have merit shortly...

Alright alright, who can tell me something about this guy?

If his band's good enough to play with Rudresh Mahanthappa at Iridium (3/16 - tickets still available), he must have something

Collection of about 50 photos by Downbeat photographer Ave Pildas

I especially like the pictures of Freddie Hubbard, Jim Hall, Wayne Shorter, Art Farmer, Howard McGhee, Nina Simone, & Ben Webster

drsmooth wrote:Alright alright, who can tell me something about this guy?

If his band's good enough to play with Rudresh Mahanthappa at Iridium (3/16 - tickets still available), he must have something

I've never heard him but heard of him I have a friend who probably knows him and I'll ask about him...

Anyone who has studied the Denis Sandole stuff has got to be interesting though...

drsmooth wrote:Collection of about 50 photos by Downbeat photographer Ave Pildas

I especially like the pictures of Freddie Hubbard, Jim Hall, Wayne Shorter, Art Farmer, Howard McGhee, Nina Simone, & Ben Webster

The web version of the photos are "unprotected", you can just control/right-mouse click and save to your desktop. All the photos seem to have the same lighting, dimension and perspective but a great roster...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wYiEqX780A&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Philly the Kid wrote:The web version of the photos are "unprotected", you can just control/right-mouse click and save to your desktop.

yes. they're kind of low-res versions, though

All the photos seem to have the same lighting, dimension and perspective...

yeah, stylistically sort of 'francis wolff lite', but as you say, some nice shots of renowned musicians

PtK, FTN, little help - what jazz numbers might a ballplayer respectably come to the plate to?

Lee Morgan had at least 2, maybe 3 tunes that might work: Speedball, and Yes I Can, No You Can't - maybe Sidewinder.

Are there contemporary players who have riff-worthy performances? The vocal segment of Dafnis Prieto's The Coolest?

oh, I got it - Don Byron, blazing Junior Walker's Pucker Up Buttercup

or the opening banging on Rudresh Mahanthappa/Vijay Iyer's Brute Facts (from Blood Sutra)

So, Larry Coryell was playing (for free) just 10 minutes up the road from me a couple days ago and I find out about it now. Sigh.

some new Zorn youtube finds. Awesome finds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18HRMqY8ioo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qisdzWPiLwA

I love Bill Frisell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbq13bLylCY

man i keep finding so much good shit today


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UQmHIYo2Js
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NRrh8Qi8m0

FTN -- and I'm putting this out there sincerely -- what is it about the

Zorn, Frissel, MMW -- thing that you like so much? It seems these artists are all liked by the same fans for the most part. I've never gotten it with them and some others that overlap this realm? I know they have big reputations and substantial followers. I've never "got it" off these artists?? It never swings for me. There always is a kind of tether to a rock-aesthetic from the 70's - a kind of jam-band element -- and the beats are often post-70's-fusion --

If you have an alternate description of the style/aesthetic, and or if those are or aren't the very reasons you dig this -- I"d be curious to get your take on it?

Of all the composers and sax players out there, I don't think I'd ever turn to John Zorn for originals or solos... so either I'm just not getting it, or I'm getting it but its not my bag??