Black Lives F*ing Matter, Jesus F*ing Christ (civil rights)

Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Jul 13, 2020 17:24:59

so many threads you could put this in
An Arkansas police officer who allegedly told a colleague that he would shoot any protesters who came to his door was charged with manslaughter in the fatal shooting of a fellow officer who knocked on his door in June.

When the police brutality protests in Minneapolis began earlier this year, the accused officer, Calvin "Nick" Salyers, told a colleague that he would "shoot through the door" at any protesters who came to his residence, according to court documents.

On Wednesday, Salyers, 33, was charged with manslaughter for allegedly shooting and killing his fellow officer, 36-year-old Scott Hutton, through the door of Salyers' residence on June 3.

Salyers, an officer with the Alexander Police Department since 2017, surrendered to special agents with the Arkansas State Police Criminal Investigation Division on Wednesday.

On June 3, Hutton had driven to Salyers' home shortly after 7 p.m. to pick up a patrol car from Salyers, which was parked inside a metal structure nearby, Ryan Jacks, an investigator with the Arkansas State Police, wrote in an arrest affidavit.

When Hutton arrived at Salyers' home, he texted him, "are you awake," Jacks wrote. When he didn't get a response, Hutton walked to the front door and knocked. Inside, Salyers was watching a movie with his girlfriend, Ashlee Cummings. He was off duty at the time.

According to Jacks, Salyers told Cummings he would check who was at the door, and grabbed his Glock .40-caliber handgun. He looked through the peephole and saw a "figure standing on his porch with a dark shirt and a gun on his hip," Jacks wrote in the affidavit.

Salyers claimed that he attempted to transfer his gun from his right to his left hand to open the door, according to the affidavit. However, he said that when he did so the gun fired, and Hutton fell.

Salyers described the shooting as an "accidental discharge," according to the affidavit.

It was then, Salyers allegedly told authorities, that he realized the figure in his doorway was Hutton. He called 911, and deputies from the Saline County Sheriff’s Office responded, according to a statement from the Arkansas State Police.

When deputies arrived, they said they observed Hutton being given life-saving measures by an Alexander Police Department officer. Hutton was transported to a local hospital, where he died.

In the arrest affidavit, Jacks wrote that agents with the Arkansas State Police investigated the scene and found that the single bullet had traveled through both the wooden front door and a glass storm door before striking Hutton.

They also found evidence that the gun had been pressed against the door when it was fired, and that Hutton was "standing at an angle and not squarely facing the door." Hutton was wearing a black polo shirt, khakis, a "typical" police officer belt, and a badge when he died, the affidavit said.

When the police brutality protests in Minneapolis began after George Floyd's death, Salyers allegedly told a fellow Alexander police officer, Sgt. Matt Wharton, that if any protesters came to his home he would "shoot through the door," according to the affidavit.

Wharton told authorities he had admonished Salyers for this remark, telling him that to do so would be "reckless and negligent," and that they could not shoot anyone without first identifying them and confirming they were a threat.

The day after the shooting, the Alexander Police Department announced Hutton's death on Facebook, writing he had been killed "in the line of duty." The department arranged a GoFundMe for Hutton's wife, Brittany, and wrote that Hutton had just reached his "dream" of becoming a cop after serving in the Army National Guard.

Salyers surrendered to authorities on Wednesday on a charge of manslaughter, a class C felony. A judge set his bond at $15,000.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Jul 13, 2020 17:34:54

Sounds like more than manslaughter to me.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Gimpy » Mon Jul 13, 2020 17:54:30

So he announced his intention to shoot at people through his door and then shot someone through his door and claimed it was an accident.

He had reason to expect a fellow officer since he had a patrol car that was getting picked up (I’m guessing that even if he didn’t know the guy would be coming for it that it would be commonplace for this to happen, but maybe I’m wrong) and he could see the shirt and holstered gun through the peephole, but he couldn’t tell it was a police officer at the door?

This shit is murder. And it’s also fucking crazy that it’ll end up as part of the statistic of the number of cops getting killed that will be used to justify use of force.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby momadance » Mon Jul 13, 2020 17:58:52

jamiethekiller wrote:Was a rule in a lot of cities for a long time that police and fire needed to be living within city limits(I think wilmington,de might still be?). Then there became shortage of people(or they didn't want to hire the people they wanted to police).

Haven't heard about teachers before though. I know both my wife and I are conflicted about not living in philadelphia while she teaches in PSD. She does pay full city wage tax, though, for whatever that is worth.


In Atlantic City, you must live in the city for four years before you can even apply for fire or police. Many move once they are hired but residents get preference (supposedly) for promotions.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Werthless » Mon Jul 13, 2020 22:34:25

Uncle Milty wrote:Sounds like more than manslaughter to me.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Uncle Milty » Tue Jul 14, 2020 06:55:02

Piece from Jemele Hill in The Atlantic after Desean's situation. Falls short IMO. I'm not a regular reader or anything but it seems hollow for The Atlantic as well.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ne/614095/
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:05:07

Posted in the Sixers thread also, but Allen Iverson has now posted a pic of himself with Louis Ferrakhan on IG
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I didn’t choose to be black, I just got lucky!!! #BucketListMoment #LoveConquersHate #GoodDefeatsEvil

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCpSKHUDMOt ... zn0n0hwvcd

EDIT: per Reddit, apparently Desean Jackson liked the post, too.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:23:03

Even if a few famous people have conflated anti semtisim to be included with BLM, that doesn't make it so.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:30:57

pacino wrote:Even if a few famous people have conflated anti semtisim to be included with BLM, that doesn't make it so.

Not sure I follow what you mean

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:33:11

I think it's far more than a few famous people.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:34:35

Speaking of...article just posted about Nick Cannon getting fired for the same shit
In Cannon's hour-plus podcast, he and Griffin contend that Black people are the true Hebrews and that Jews have usurped their identity.

Cannon then segues into a discussion of skin color — “And I’m going to say this carefully,” he begins — to allege that people who lack sufficient melanin are “a little less.”

Those without dark skin have a “deficiency” that historically forced them to act out of fear and commit acts of violence to survive, he said.

“They had to be savages,” Cannon said, adding that he was referring to “Jewish people, white people, Europeans,” among others.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/enterta ... wt_PHBrand

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:38:35

It's unclear to me why this stuff keeps getting posted in this thread.

Famous Black people spreading conspiracy theories they already believed and have nothing to do with BLM.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby JUburton » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:38:40

PSUsarge wrote:Posted in the Sixers thread also, but Allen Iverson has now posted a pic of himself with Louis Ferrakhan on IG
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I didn’t choose to be black, I just got lucky!!! #BucketListMoment #LoveConquersHate #GoodDefeatsEvil

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCpSKHUDMOt ... zn0n0hwvcd

EDIT: per Reddit, apparently Desean Jackson liked the post, too.

There are a not insignificant number of black male celebrities that gravitate towards farrakhan and it is problematic!

obviously not to say white people don't do stupid shit; looking at you scientology. basically the celebs are at it again.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby thephan » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:41:15

Ferrakhan has an opening. He can spin his quest w/o tipping his hand as to who/what he has been. Unfortunately in a charged environment selectively picking moments and omitting a majority of his historic acts he can pass off that he is an original BLM. This is banking on low information over a quest for action.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby PSUsarge » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:50:02

pacino wrote:It's unclear to me why this stuff keeps getting posted in this thread.

Famous Black people spreading conspiracy theories they already believed and have nothing to do with BLM.

I'm a little unclear on how this topic doesn't relate to this thread - which, correct me if I'm wrong, is regarding social injustice, discrimination, and racism, which BLM is one of many groups speaking out against.

If white athletes were posting David Duke photos and quotes, going to guess that would be posted here, too, right?

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby pacino » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:52:20

This is about Black Lives Matter; I mean it's in the title. Anti-semitism has nothing to do with this. Anti-semitism is a scourge but I honestly don't get what this has to do with BLM.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 15, 2020 08:54:55

phatj's fault for too specific of a title.
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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Napalm » Wed Jul 15, 2020 09:07:15

pacino wrote:This is about Black Lives Matter; I mean it's in the title. Anti-semitism has nothing to do with this. Anti-semitism is a scourge but I honestly don't get what this has to do with BLM.

Brutal thread policing

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby JUburton » Wed Jul 15, 2020 09:07:18

Uncle Milty wrote:phatj's fault for too specific of a title.

yeah, this is the sequel to the Civil Rights thread so I think that's why.

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Re: Black Lives F***ing Matter, Jesus F***ing Christ

Postby Gimpy » Wed Jul 15, 2020 09:07:30

I consider this thread to be a discussion about civil rights in the US. There’s an obvious focus on the protests against police brutality because that’s probably the biggest civil rights event of my lifetime and it’s ongoing, but I think this is probably the appropriate place to call out bigotry against any race, ethnicity, religion.

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