momadance wrote:

Your spittle, my life.

I wonder what her stance is on other choice options. Also, what's up with that bandana?

The bandana was covering her nose and mouth until the photo opp presented itself

Several of my female friends on FB were deeply offended by that sign, as they should be.

Will be interesting to see polling in two months when the Trump supporters realize the economy isn’t going to magically bounce back. Artificial propping up from Treasury only solves a short-term problem.

Swiggers wrote:Several of my female friends on FB were deeply offended by that sign, as they should be.

Maybe I'm overly priveledged, but I can't work myself up into any level of offense with a protest sign. They could be endorsing bringing Hitler back to euthanize transgender fetuses, and it wouldn't matter. People are idiots, and getting confirmation of that loses its impact over time.

You get no points by being offended.

The B1G Piece wrote:Will be interesting to see polling in two months when the Trump supporters realize the economy isn’t going to magically bounce back. Artificial propping up from Treasury only solves a short-term problem.

A large majority of people wouldn't have confidence to start living their lives normally even if Trump or their governors 'pressed play' tomorrow. There's a ton of public polling out there on this.

There's a weird disconnect in the discussion about government opening/closing. Because government permission is pretty irrelevant to the success/failure to a good extent. Would think my fellow right leaning folks would be particularly attuned to the fact that government cannot successfully plan economies or force economic activities. Wishing didn't make things so in the USSR. It's not going to work in getting our economy back to normal either unless people were comfortable on the health side.

jerseyhoya wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Will be interesting to see polling in two months when the Trump supporters realize the economy isn’t going to magically bounce back. Artificial propping up from Treasury only solves a short-term problem.

A large majority of people wouldn't have confidence to start living their lives normally even if Trump or their governors 'pressed play' tomorrow. There's a ton of public polling out there on this.

There's a weird disconnect in the discussion about government opening/closing. Because government permission is pretty irrelevant to the success/failure to a good extent. Would think my fellow right leaning folks would be particularly attuned to the fact that government cannot successfully plan economies or force economic activities. Wishing didn't make things so in the USSR. It's not going to work in getting our economy back to normal either unless people were comfortable on the health side.

I agree, but reading the WSJ article Sarge linked and some other recent commentary, it boggles my mind Trump will wash his hands and this will wash over for him by November. He is somehow getting credit for privatizing the response because he fucking is awful, lacks any level of long term planning and delegated the response to his reprehensible son-in-law.

Werthless wrote:

Swiggers wrote:Several of my female friends on FB were deeply offended by that sign, as they should be.

Maybe I'm overly priveledged, but I can't work myself up into any level of offense with a protest sign. They could be endorsing bringing Hitler back to euthanize transgender fetuses, and it wouldn't matter. People are idiots, and getting confirmation of that loses its impact over time.

I get it and normally agree. Usually can convince myself to find humor in it. Anything nazi triggers me but that's personal. That's also why I can see people offended by "My Body, My Choice" being appropriated by the bandana broad.

The B1G Piece wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Will be interesting to see polling in two months when the Trump supporters realize the economy isn’t going to magically bounce back. Artificial propping up from Treasury only solves a short-term problem.

A large majority of people wouldn't have confidence to start living their lives normally even if Trump or their governors 'pressed play' tomorrow. There's a ton of public polling out there on this.

There's a weird disconnect in the discussion about government opening/closing. Because government permission is pretty irrelevant to the success/failure to a good extent. Would think my fellow right leaning folks would be particularly attuned to the fact that government cannot successfully plan economies or force economic activities. Wishing didn't make things so in the USSR. It's not going to work in getting our economy back to normal either unless people were comfortable on the health side.

I agree, but reading the WSJ article Sarge linked and some other recent commentary, it boggles my mind Trump will wash his hands and this will wash over for him by November. He is somehow getting credit for privatizing the response because he fucking is awful, lacks any level of long term planning and delegated the response to his reprehensible son-in-law.

HIghly doubt this washes over by November.

Although that might be his play here. Get the markets back up and call it the economy while hoping the warm weather keeps the 2nd wave at bay until after the election.

jerseyhoya wrote:

The B1G Piece wrote:Will be interesting to see polling in two months when the Trump supporters realize the economy isn’t going to magically bounce back. Artificial propping up from Treasury only solves a short-term problem.

A large majority of people wouldn't have confidence to start living their lives normally even if Trump or their governors 'pressed play' tomorrow. There's a ton of public polling out there on this.

There's a weird disconnect in the discussion about government opening/closing. Because government permission is pretty irrelevant to the success/failure to a good extent. Would think my fellow right leaning folks would be particularly attuned to the fact that government cannot successfully plan economies or force economic activities. Wishing didn't make things so in the USSR. It's not going to work in getting our economy back to normal either unless people were comfortable on the health side.

I don't think they care one bit about the real economy. That would mean they give a damn about us and we all know that's not they case.

They'll claim great victory with market indices above the inauguration levels and unemployment shrinking at any pace.

It will absolutely wash over by Nov in the sense that Trump is not going to suffer any voter blowback. This election is going to rest solely on turnout. Nothing Trump does is going to alienate his voters/supporters. These are folks who are anger-first and he gives them somewhere to direct their anger every single day.

I got folks on my Facebook feed -- some are even former clients -- repeatedly screaming to open the country because this is all a media hoax and NYC's problem. These ppl are not suddenly "coming to their senses", they have an immutable outlook on life.

I agree with you gr. Anyone who still supports Trump will never change unless they feel a great personal loss. Even then many of them would blame someone/something else.

I meant more the opposition remaining energized until November. I also agree turnout will 100% decide the election. I'd guess we have the lowest number of "undecideds" ever.

It will also depend on if the GOP is willing to pull out all the stops on voter suppression. My personal opinion is we better assume the worst because Trump always runs to the lowest common denominator and there is no line he won't cross, legal, moral, or otherwise.

Monkeyboy wrote:It will also depend on if the GOP is willing to pull out all the stops on voter suppression. My personal opinion is we better assume the worst because Trump always runs to the lowest common denominator and there is no line he won't cross, legal, moral, or otherwise.

Fortunately the only large swing states with Republican governors are Florida and Ohio, and I think those are in the Trump camp no matter what. Iowa and New Hampshire also have Republican governors, but typical GOP voter suppression tactics won't work as well there because they're almost all white. Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin all have Democratic governors.

gr wrote:It will absolutely wash over by Nov in the sense that Trump is not going to suffer any voter blowback. This election is going to rest solely on turnout. Nothing Trump does is going to alienate his voters/supporters. These are folks who are anger-first and he gives them somewhere to direct their anger every single day.

I got folks on my Facebook feed -- some are even former clients -- repeatedly screaming to open the country because this is all a media hoax and NYC's problem. These ppl are not suddenly "coming to their senses", they have an immutable outlook on life.

well put

If anything, these might cull the republican herd.

Senator Mastriano (spurs McGee) is wearing a mask at the PA protest