Uncle Milty wrote:I think the concession speeches are premature and I'm sure Sanders and his camp feel the same way.

LastTrain wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Reassuring for our democracy that money can't buy an election.

Sanders spent about $16 million in Super Tuesday states through Feb. 27. Bloomberg spent a quarter of a billion dollars, while Biden had spent only about $625,000.

I felt the same way at first reading the headline, and the Bloomberg part remains true no matter what, but a couple thoughts dampen the effect for me.

This a little bit like saying it's nice to know there's a difference between the mega rich and the ultra mega rich, or the 1% and the 0.1%.
For Biden, we should probably add in the spending of Buttigieg and Klobuchar to see the real spending efforts of the votes he ultimately received.

CalvinBall wrote:Sanders providing a campaign update at 2 pm

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:I think the concession speeches are premature and I'm sure Sanders and his camp feel the same way.

Idk, he's been running for six years and in all that time he has evidently done nothing to ingratiate himself to anyone who could help in this moment among the Democratic establishment, maybe for starters by just trading his precious sense of principle enough to join the Democratic party; he also did nothing or next to nothing to use his considerable base to get any allies elected who could be helping him now (some progressives got elected in 2018 of course, but no thanks to Sanders); and as others have pointed out, he has arguably therefore lost ground over 2016. This might be in part because Biden > Hillary, but regardless it surely does not augur well for his chances going forward in this primary.

Elizabeth Warren did him no favors, to be sure, and I was really pulling hard for a Sanders win, but he's really got no legit path now. Next Tuesday he will lose Missouri and Mississippi, and if he loses Michigan it's really, really over.

Uncle Milty wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:I think the concession speeches are premature and I'm sure Sanders and his camp feel the same way.

Idk, he's been running for six years and in all that time he has evidently done nothing to ingratiate himself to anyone who could help in this moment among the Democratic establishment, maybe for starters by just trading his precious sense of principle enough to join the Democratic party; he also did nothing or next to nothing to use his considerable base to get any allies elected who could be helping him now (some progressives got elected in 2018 of course, but no thanks to Sanders); and as others have pointed out, he has arguably therefore lost ground over 2016. This might be in part because Biden > Hillary, but regardless it surely does not augur well for his chances going forward in this primary.

Elizabeth Warren did him no favors, to be sure, and I was really pulling hard for a Sanders win, but he's really got no legit path now. Next Tuesday he will lose Missouri and Mississippi, and if he loses Michigan it's really, really over.

I mostly agree except this race has not been kind to the front-runner. I think Bernie's Nevada victory mobilized some of SC and last night. While unlikely I could see Biden's Super Tuesday finally mobilizing the voters Bernie has promised.

CalvinBall wrote:Sanders providing a campaign update at 2 pm

Uncle Milty wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:I think the concession speeches are premature and I'm sure Sanders and his camp feel the same way.

Idk, he's been running for six years and in all that time he has evidently done nothing to ingratiate himself to anyone who could help in this moment among the Democratic establishment, maybe for starters by just trading his precious sense of principle enough to join the Democratic party; he also did nothing or next to nothing to use his considerable base to get any allies elected who could be helping him now (some progressives got elected in 2018 of course, but no thanks to Sanders); and as others have pointed out, he has arguably therefore lost ground over 2016. This might be in part because Biden > Hillary, but regardless it surely does not augur well for his chances going forward in this primary.

Elizabeth Warren did him no favors, to be sure, and I was really pulling hard for a Sanders win, but he's really got no legit path now. Next Tuesday he will lose Missouri and Mississippi, and if he loses Michigan it's really, really over.

I mostly agree except this race has not been kind to the front-runner. I think Bernie's Nevada victory mobilized some of SC and last night. While unlikely I could see Biden's Super Tuesday finally mobilizing the voters Bernie has promised.

heyeaglefn wrote:I don't think debates matter that much anymore. I am not sure any Biden backers are going to move over to Sanders if they already haven't based even if he gets destroyed or has another senior moment.

Brantt wrote:

heyeaglefn wrote:I don't think debates matter that much anymore. I am not sure any Biden backers are going to move over to Sanders if they already haven't based even if he gets destroyed or has another senior moment.

I respectfully disagree. If Bloomberg never stepped on the debate stage (which he didn't have to) he would be the frontrunner for the nomination today and Biden would be done.

td11 wrote:All the healthcare stocks making huge jumps due to Biden’s big night. Good to see America continuing to work the way it’s supposed to

td11 wrote:All the healthcare stocks making huge jumps due to Biden’s big night. Good to see America continuing to work the way it’s supposed to

LastTrain wrote:

Uncle Milty wrote:Reassuring for our democracy that money can't buy an election.

Sanders spent about $16 million in Super Tuesday states through Feb. 27. Bloomberg spent a quarter of a billion dollars, while Biden had spent only about $625,000.

I felt the same way at first reading the headline, and the Bloomberg part remains true no matter what, but a couple thoughts dampen the effect for me.

This a little bit like saying it's nice to know there's a difference between the mega rich and the ultra mega rich, or the 1% and the 0.1%.
For Biden, we should probably add in the spending of Buttigieg and Klobuchar to see the real spending efforts of the votes he ultimately received.

td11 wrote:All the healthcare stocks making huge jumps due to Biden’s big night. Good to see America continuing to work the way it’s supposed to

td11 wrote:All the healthcare stocks making huge jumps due to Biden’s big night. Good to see America continuing to work the way it’s supposed to