Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby phatj » Sat Feb 29, 2020 14:23:45

Shore wrote:
phatj wrote:The Spanish Flu infected about a quarter of the population of the entire world in 1918, killing at least 40M and possibly as many as 100M people, with a mortality rate of around 1-2%, putting it right around that of COVID-19.

Obviously, we're a long way from that, and medicine is vastly better today. On the flip side, it seems that COVID-19 can transmit before infected people show any symptoms, or at least any symptoms worse than those of the common cold. And for all the advances in medicine, we're not really equipped for a pandemic; the number of potential patients vastly exceeds the capacity of our hospitals and clinics even in the US, let alone less developed countries.

This could be really, really bad.


I don't think those numbers (mortality rate) are right, despite seeing them in a lot of places... I think the generally accepted facts are:

- World population was under 2 billion.
- About 500M people got sick.
- Somewhere between 35M and 100M people died

If that's true, the mortality rate (deaths/cases) is between 7% and 20%, not 1-2%. That's a massive difference, math-wise, on the potential devastation of a disease.

I think the reporting is confusing death/population with death/cases... somewhere between 2% and 5% of the population died, but only 1/4 of the population was sick.

Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Sat Feb 29, 2020 14:38:51

i think both numbers are important, as they speak to both its communicability and survival rate once contracted. So it's Beyesian.

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby momadance » Sat Feb 29, 2020 15:45:03

Welcome to NJ.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/02/28 ... -in-state/

We won’t know for sure if that person is infected for a couple of days, but hospital officials say it’s taking every precaution and is prepared to handle the case.


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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby 06hawkalum » Sat Feb 29, 2020 15:48:15

momadance wrote:Welcome to NJ.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/02/28 ... -in-state/

We won’t know for sure if that person is infected for a couple of days, but hospital officials say it’s taking every precaution and is prepared to handle the case.


Jesus Christ


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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Sat Feb 29, 2020 15:52:23

Seriously. It’s here. You may have already had it.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby momadance » Sat Feb 29, 2020 15:53:57

06hawkalum wrote:
momadance wrote:Welcome to NJ.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/02/28 ... -in-state/

We won’t know for sure if that person is infected for a couple of days, but hospital officials say it’s taking every precaution and is prepared to handle the case.


Jesus Christ


This was inevitable. No point in panicking.


Just need the fed to lower rates and pray the virus away.

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby heyeaglefn » Sat Feb 29, 2020 15:56:11

If it's like the flu outside of developing a shot I'm not sure what they can do. People are dirty shit pigs so wash your hands as normal.

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Sat Feb 29, 2020 16:35:13

I go back and forth between whatever I'll probably get it and be good to go in a few days and yep this thing is definitely gonna kill me.

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Shore » Sat Feb 29, 2020 16:45:36

From what I can find here, it appears that old people are in a lot more trouble than everyone else, as one might expect:

AGE - DEATH RATE
80+ years old - 14.8%
70-79 years old - 8.0%
60-69 years old - 3.6%
50-59 years old - 1.3%
40-49 years old - 0.4%
30-39 years old - 0.2%
20-29 years old - 0.2%
10-19 years old - 0.2%
0-9 years old - no fatalities

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby 06hawkalum » Sat Feb 29, 2020 16:58:32

The Savior wrote:Seriously. It’s here. You may have already had it.


Exactly. I have resigned myself to the fact that wife and I are going to contract it and that we have a 99.8% chance of surviving. The thought of being hospitalized in a quarantined wing isn't appealing so hopefully we both get mild cases and can just self-isolate.

My primary concern is my parents and aunts and uncles, who range in age from late 50s to late 70s. Luckily I haven't lost any of them in my nearly four decades on earth and hope that this outbreak doesn't change that.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Sat Feb 29, 2020 17:53:23

and with each passing day, the world learns more about this thing. How it acts, how it spreads, how to fight it.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Sat Feb 29, 2020 17:54:09

so it's the biological equivalent of trumpism

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby thephan » Sat Feb 29, 2020 18:06:32

A skilled nursing facility in Washington state reported that at least two people have the coronavirus, and state officials say other residents are reporting similar respiratory symptoms.

Someone on CNN called this facility a petri dish. That seems a poor use of words.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Uncle Milty » Sat Feb 29, 2020 18:59:14

Just stay 6 feet away from everyone
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat Feb 29, 2020 19:03:13

Shore wrote:From what I can find here, it appears that old people are in a lot more trouble than everyone else, as one might expect:

AGE - DEATH RATE
80+ years old - 14.8%
70-79 years old - 8.0%
60-69 years old - 3.6%
50-59 years old - 1.3%
40-49 years old - 0.4%
30-39 years old - 0.2%
20-29 years old - 0.2%
10-19 years old - 0.2%
0-9 years old - no fatalities



Yeh, that's pretty normal for most things like this. I read something the other day about mortality rates being highly correlated with prior lung disease, including damage due to smoking. So smokers are at a higher than normal risk.

This is why I mentioned the spanish flu. That flu killed young people. The mechanism for that fact is kinda interesting. I recommend googling it.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat Feb 29, 2020 19:04:56

Uncle Milty wrote:Just stay 6 feet away from everyone


and wear a mask and gloves, and wash your hands and face, and stay in your house with no visitors.
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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby thephan » Sat Feb 29, 2020 19:10:22

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby Wheels Tupay » Sat Feb 29, 2020 19:24:43

Uncle Milty wrote:Just stay 6 feet away from everyone


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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby momadance » Sat Feb 29, 2020 20:40:51

pacino wrote:A guy from PA who has it went on FOX News and was coughing into his mouth and holding his daughter and handling her water bottle


And he's grifting...

https://www.gofundme.com/f/wuhan-corona-virus

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Re: Breakout! A COVID-19 Thread

Unread postby The Dude » Sat Feb 29, 2020 20:44:17

So he was quarantined with his daughter and how is he grifting
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