JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster #$!&@.

This is where I am with it. I may be completely misrepresenting here but I feel like caucuses are perfectly suited for non-main stream candidates and do not work well for establishment types. To me, the upset would have been Sanders or Buttigieg NOT winning Iowa. Sanders had damn well better win NH since it is in his backyard.

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster #$!&@.

You’re forgetting about Bloomberg.

Bloomberg is going to push all his cards in for Super Tuesday. I'm very interested to see the impact of this.

I've been really impressed with Bloomberg's ad campaign, especially when comparing to the dumpster fire in Iowa

I lived in NYC during much of Bloomberg’s tenure as mayor. Was never a big fan. Never voted for him. But there’s no question he is very competent, knows how to surround himself with competent people and knows how to use his vast fortune to good effect. He also knows how to push Trump’s buttons.

I know there are those here who really dislike some of his politics and previous policies but if he could beat Trump, we could do a lot worse.

And please don’t let’s launch into polemics about what a terrible person he is. I started off by saying I’ve never been a big fan but every day that goes by reminds me of the old adage: “Any port in a storm.” For all his faults, we could do a lot worse than Bloomberg.

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster fuck.

You’re forgetting about Bloomberg.

Bloomberg can only fuck over Buttigieg/Biden. I wonder what he thinks he's accomplishing?

The Washington Post
The Post Most

$650 a night at Mar-a-Lago, $17,000 a month at Bedminster: What Trump’s company charged taxpayers for Secret Service lodging

Seems a little over per diem and government rates. 2020 rates are $203.00 per night in Palm Beach and $155 for Somerset or $4805 for 31 days.

Showing the love for law enforcement, a police officier was telling me that when Trump is at his DC club that they offer the option of buying food at full price from the bar menu to be delivered to the officers by golf cart.

thephan wrote:

The Washington Post
The Post Most

$650 a night at Mar-a-Lago, $17,000 a month at Bedminster: What Trump’s company charged taxpayers for Secret Service lodging

Seems a little over per diem and government rates. 202 rates are $203.00 per night in Palm Beach and $155 for Somerset or $4805 for 31 days.

Showing the love for law enforcement, a police officier was telling me that when Trump is at his DC club that they offer the option of buying food at full price from the bar menu to be delivered to the officers by golf cart.

Yeah, but Hunter Biden.

Wolfgang622 wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster fuck.

You’re forgetting about Bloomberg.

Bloomberg can only fuck over Buttigieg/Biden. I wonder what he thinks he's accomplishing?

His campaign makes legitimately no sense unless he's a closet Bernie fan (he's not). He is not going to hit many thresholds (generally 15%) so he'll get 0 delegates and just take votes from the moderate wing. As a Bernie/Warren fan...thank you for your service.

JUburton wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster fuck.

You’re forgetting about Bloomberg.

Bloomberg can only fuck over Buttigieg/Biden. I wonder what he thinks he's accomplishing?

His campaign makes legitimately no sense unless he's a closet Bernie fan (he's not). He is not going to hit many thresholds (generally 15%) so he'll get 0 delegates and just take votes from the moderate wing. As a Bernie/Warren fan...thank you for your service.

He could end up causing a brokered convention, and I cannot see Bernie being the candidate to be chosen.

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster fuck.

You’re forgetting about Bloomberg.

Bloomberg can only fuck over Buttigieg/Biden. I wonder what he thinks he's accomplishing?

His campaign makes legitimately no sense unless he's a closet Bernie fan (he's not). He is not going to hit many thresholds (generally 15%) so he'll get 0 delegates and just take votes from the moderate wing. As a Bernie/Warren fan...thank you for your service.

He could end up causing a brokered convention, and I cannot see Bernie being the candidate to be chosen.

That's a good way to alienate a lot of voters and instigate more "fixed election" rumors.

Quick Bites from the CNN Headlines:

Joe Walsh ends Republican primary challenge against Trump - Never had a chance

Emoluments case tossed - There is no bottom

Trump's former Navy secretary endorses Michael Bloomberg - This guy loves moneyed men

CNN has a story about Lev Parnas' bottomless pit of pictures and videos that he continues to pump - nothing more disturbing then Parnas wiping Rudy's mouth at a meal

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:

Wolfgang622 wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:

JUburton wrote:Feel like we're all letting the petementum get us here.

He 'won' a state with weird voting rules with questionable tabulation. This and NH are great states for him. Bernie won more raw votes in both caucus rounds and delegates are delivered proportionally. Bernie has far stronger minority support which didn't help much in Iowa and won't in NH. Biden also has far better minority support than Pete does. And it's unfortunate but his support is probably going to suffer in the south because of who he married.

If Bernie/Pete finish clear 1/2 in NH, it's Bernie/Biden/Pete on Super Tuesday. If Bernie shows strongly then it's basically over. If Biden charges back it's going to be a real cluster fuck.

You’re forgetting about Bloomberg.

Bloomberg can only fuck over Buttigieg/Biden. I wonder what he thinks he's accomplishing?

His campaign makes legitimately no sense unless he's a closet Bernie fan (he's not). He is not going to hit many thresholds (generally 15%) so he'll get 0 delegates and just take votes from the moderate wing. As a Bernie/Warren fan...thank you for your service.

He could end up causing a brokered convention, and I cannot see Bernie being the candidate to be chosen.

Doesn't he only do this if he hits thresholds?

And the DNC would be insane to allow this to happen if Bernie wins a legitimate plurality (not like 31-29-22-18).

@JoshNBCNews
BREAKING: Vindman attorney David Pressman: “Today, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman was escorted out of the White House where he has dutifully served his country and his President.”

Departing the White House Friday afternoon, President Donald Trump asserted that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "broke the law" in tearing up her copy of his State of Union address after he concluded his remarks Tuesday.

“Well I thought it was a terrible thing when she ripped up the speech. First of all, it’s an official document. You’re not allowed. It’s illegal what she did. She broke the law," he told reporters.

USA today reporting on an intellectual Child

Wolfgang622 wrote:
Bloomberg can only #$!&@ over Buttigieg/Biden. I wonder what he thinks he's accomplishing?

I think he is Bernie insurance.

If Biden/Booty/Amy cannot suppress Sanders, Bloomie has the national profile and the deep pockets to stop him. Bloomie is there because the DNC wants him there.

Sanders is like a Yuge Jill Stein, an unwitting Putin's stooge to help Trump win AGAIN.

momadance wrote:@JoshNBCNews
BREAKING: Vindman attorney David Pressman: “Today, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman was escorted out of the White House where he has dutifully served his country and his President.”

Slight twist.

BREAKING: Lt. Col. Alex Vindman fired from White House job, he was escorted out of the White House by security and told his services were no longer needed.

www.businessinsider.com/trump-consideri ... 20-2%3famp

thephan wrote:

momadance wrote:@JoshNBCNews
BREAKING: Vindman attorney David Pressman: “Today, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman was escorted out of the White House where he has dutifully served his country and his President.”

Slight twist.

BREAKING: Lt. Col. Alex Vindman fired from White House job, he was escorted out of the White House by security and told his services were no longer needed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-co ... 20-2%3famp

Apparently his brother, a NSC lawyer, was also fired and escorted out.

Taliban style

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), one of two Republicans to vote last week to subpoena additional witnesses and extend the impeachment trial, said Friday that she would disapprove of President Trump retaliating against anyone who came forward with evidence against him.

LMAO

When she returns to DC she will sternly shake her finger and say 'bad Mr. President'.


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/482 ... te-against

thephan wrote:

momadance wrote:@JoshNBCNews
BREAKING: Vindman attorney David Pressman: “Today, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman was escorted out of the White House where he has dutifully served his country and his President.”

Slight twist.

BREAKING: Lt. Col. Alex Vindman fired from White House job, he was escorted out of the White House by security and told his services were no longer needed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-co ... 20-2%3famp

Naturally everyone serves at the pleasure of the president but this is a disgrace. Obvious retaliation for telling the truth which, of course, does not fly with this administration. Lt. Col. Vindman has more honor in the nail on his pinkie than does Trump's entire family + everyone else in this administration + every senator with an R after their name (save for Mitt Romney).