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Postby JUburton » Wed Nov 20, 2019 15:18:00

i dont know what i expect from the times op/ed but how you can print this is beyond me

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/opin ... e=Homepage

dude's twitter handle is ToryAnarchist and he edits a 'conservative quarterly' and works for a koch related think tank.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby traderdave » Wed Nov 20, 2019 15:18:26

Right. That's my point. It is very strange language. It is like a mob boss carefully talking to a salt shaker.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby traderdave » Wed Nov 20, 2019 15:23:33

momadance wrote:
traderdave wrote:I mean, I'm highly suspicious of pretty much EVERYTHING Trump does/says but isn't it a bit strange that he would specifically say "I want no Quid Pro Quo"?

And BTW, just because one side does not follow through on the agreed to Quid Pro Quo does not mean that there was no attempt at it.


The "no quid pro quo" text came after the report of a whistleblower was leaked. (9/9/19)


Right. That's my point. It is very strange language. It is like a mob boss carefully talking to a salt shaker.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 15:28:38

traderdave wrote:
momadance wrote:
traderdave wrote:I mean, I'm highly suspicious of pretty much EVERYTHING Trump does/says but isn't it a bit strange that he would specifically say "I want no Quid Pro Quo"?

And BTW, just because one side does not follow through on the agreed to Quid Pro Quo does not mean that there was no attempt at it.


The "no quid pro quo" text came after the report of a whistleblower was leaked. (9/9/19)


Right. That's my point. It is very strange language. It is like a mob boss carefully talking to a salt shaker.


I think the dems need to emphasize more that the text message came after the whistleblower complaint came to light.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 15:29:01

Stewart is a fucking moron.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 15:48:20

Fake news bots now spreading on twitter that the head of Burisma has been indicted (he hasn't). Which stems from a post at Zero Hedge.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 20, 2019 16:09:08

They have MORE witnesses still TODAY. I am worn out and I have just been listening on and off

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CFP » Wed Nov 20, 2019 16:17:20

CalvinBall wrote:They have MORE witnesses still TODAY. I am worn out and I have just been listening on and off


When I flipped the TV on last night around 8:30 I couldn't believe it was still going. Congress sure knows how to be highly inefficient and then yet have 14 hour days for no reason.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 20, 2019 16:23:24

Someone needs to ask:

(1) Do you know of any other country where the President has asked for corruption investigations of US citizens?

(2) Do you know of any US citizens or subject matter, other than the Bidens and the 2016 election, where the President has asked a foreign government to investigate?

(3) You testified repeatedly that the President wanted only the announcement of investigations into the Bidens and the server. Since the mere announcement of investigations is not likely to reduce corruption in the Ukraine, what possible objective -- other than personal, political advantage -- would the President have in mind in withholding aid and a WH meeting until such an announcement was made?
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 20, 2019 16:40:40

i think sondland would be cool with a million dollar refund and never having been stuck in this mess.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 18:52:05

I've only seen a couple of teasers, but Devin Nunes is on TV saying things that have been proven to be false about the whistleblower and the IG. WTF.

I did see a picture of Dan's notes that he was using on his way across the South lawn I think, and it was kind of bananas.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 20, 2019 19:02:42

Passed minimum wage to 9.50. Few Rs voted against. Will go to house. It's wild. Impact larger percentages of people in these rural counties the Rs represent but for some reason these people still hold office.

Needs to be higher but impressive Ds could even get this with no control in the general assembly.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 19:11:12

Cooper providing emails that Ukraine knew of the aid being held up on July 25th, the day of the phone call. Oops. Down goes another GOP defense.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 20, 2019 19:13:24

Nunes: THEY DID NOT WARN OF CHANGES

Schiff: Nunes actually said last night "ok. Got it. Thanks for the heads up."

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Nov 20, 2019 19:15:28

Q: How can you tell when Devin Nunes is lying?

A: His lips are moving.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 19:22:54

Trump says he opened the Apple plant in Texas today. It opened in 2013.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Wed Nov 20, 2019 19:43:25

momadance wrote:Trump says he opened the door all by himself toApple plant in Texas today.


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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 21:30:15

Most of the Republicans left the last hearing early after Schiff asked them to stick around for business. Then all of their subpoena motions (Whistleblower and Biden) were tabled by a 13-5 vote lol.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Wed Nov 20, 2019 21:34:40

Lev Parnas, an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, helped arrange meetings and calls in Europe for Rep. Devin Nunes in 2018, Parnas’ lawyer Ed MacMahon told The Daily Beast.

Nunes aide Derek Harvey participated in the meetings, the lawyer said, which were arranged to help Nunes’ investigative work. MacMahon didn’t specify what those investigations entailed.

Congressional records show Nunes traveled to Europe from Nov. 30 to Dec. 3, 2018. Three of his aides—Harvey, Scott Glabe, and George Pappas—traveled with him, per the records. U.S. government funds paid for the group’s four-day trip, which cost just over $63,000.

The travel came as Nunes, in his role on the House Intelligence Committee, was working to investigate the origins of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian election meddling.


Sounds like fun.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lev-parna ... stigations

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Nov 20, 2019 22:31:16

These questions are bad

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