What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politics)

Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Bucky » Mon Oct 28, 2019 08:52:27

now when we find out jared, ivanka, and rudy also were in the know, well....

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Werthless » Mon Oct 28, 2019 09:47:15

Bucky wrote:I feel dirty for saying this, but that actually may be defensible. probably a 'need to know' type thing. if russian observations picked up some kind of covert activity that they couldn't identify the result might have been ugly.

We both know that the likelihood of this being logistical, instead of political, is low.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Mon Oct 28, 2019 09:48:37

Werthless wrote:
Bucky wrote:I feel dirty for saying this, but that actually may be defensible. probably a 'need to know' type thing. if russian observations picked up some kind of covert activity that they couldn't identify the result might have been ugly.

We both know that the likelihood of this being logistical, instead of political, is low.


Technically, Russia was informed because they had 8 helicopters use Russian controlled airspace. But I doubt Trump knows that.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Bucky » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:17:52

you don't think there was a general or some other uni whispering in his ear?

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:35:09

Bucky wrote:you don't think there was a general or some other uni whispering in his ear?


On the golf course?
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:38:46

The DOJ is going to appeal the judge's ruling over giving the House access to the Meuller Grand Jury information. I am just shock I tell you that one branch of the government has contempt for the other two.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:28:04

thephan wrote:
Bucky wrote:you don't think there was a general or some other uni whispering in his ear?


On the golf course?


He quite likely was watching the raid, though who knows about that awful photo
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Phred » Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:55:14

Almost an entire stadium of people boo the guy and we still think that he is going to win another election?
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 13:09:28

Bunch of inside the beltway Washington libs chanting 'lock him up' is not getting the job done.

FWIW, I think the booing was spotty.
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Postby stevemc » Mon Oct 28, 2019 13:17:09

Phred wrote:Almost an entire stadium of people boo the guy and we still think that he is going to win another election?


Happened to W

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Werthless » Mon Oct 28, 2019 13:40:26

swishnicholson wrote:
thephan wrote:
Bucky wrote:you don't think there was a general or some other uni whispering in his ear?


On the golf course?


He quite likely was watching the raid, though who knows about that awful photo

I'm very cynical about anything coming from his mouth, but this is so far down the line in the list of things to be mad about. I don't care if he was watching the raid video live, or 1 hour later, or audio live while video was later. I do have extreme doubts that Trump understands anything to do with national security and foreign policy, and will blunder into revealing sensitive information for a cheap political win. Thus, I'd almost rather he doesn't talk about this at all, and I hope he doesn't feel pressured to reveal the actual video footage of the raid. If he does that, combined with his press conferences on the issue, he's basically created the recruitment video for ISIS.

And no, I don't think he trusts anybody to whisper in his ear and tell him how to handle intelligence distribution. That's a big part of his problem... his incompetence and naivete is paired with a giant ego.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 14:08:37

President Trump on Monday used his first trip to Chicago as president to tear into the city and its leadership, comparing its violence to Afghanistan and blasting officials as inept and disloyal to the U.S.

In what would might you envision no roads closed, and no police escort for a caravan between the airport and the conference location? Oh, that one.

“People like Johnson [police superintendent] put criminals and illegal aliens before the citizens of Chicago, and those are his values,” Trump said. “Frankly, those values, to me, are a disgrace.”
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby swishnicholson » Mon Oct 28, 2019 14:30:06

Werthless wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
thephan wrote:
Bucky wrote:you don't think there was a general or some other uni whispering in his ear?


On the golf course?


He quite likely was watching the raid, though who knows about that awful photo

I'm very cynical about anything coming from his mouth, but this is so far down the line in the list of things to be mad about. I don't care if he was watching the raid video live, or 1 hour later, or audio live while video was later. I do have extreme doubts that Trump understands anything to do with national security and foreign policy, and will blunder into revealing sensitive information for a cheap political win. Thus, I'd almost rather he doesn't talk about this at all, and I hope he doesn't feel pressured to reveal the actual video footage of the raid. If he does that, combined with his press conferences on the issue, he's basically created the recruitment video for ISIS.

And no, I don't think he trusts anybody to whisper in his ear and tell him how to handle intelligence distribution. That's a big part of his problem... his incompetence and naivete is paired with a giant ego.


Oh yeah, whether he was on the golf course or not is such a minor point. But there's so much appalling stuff that's true, I hate to give ammunition to the deniers by circulating things that likely aren't.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 14:49:45

Uncle Milty wrote:Here's the whole video and transcript

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/27/77384299 ... adis-death


You know, these people are very smart. They're not into the use of cellphones anymore. They're not — they're very technically brilliant. You know, they use the Internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump. But they use the Internet incredibly well.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Squire » Mon Oct 28, 2019 15:52:06

Pelosi announces that on Thursday they will have a full house vote to initiate the House Impeachment Inquiry.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 15:59:57

So let me get this straight, there were flashers promoting a business coincidentally at WS Game 5 where Donald happened to be. Was that business lobbying?
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Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 16:00:48

Squire wrote:Pelosi announces that on Thursday they will have a full house vote to initiate the House Impeachment Inquiry.


Does that foretell any issues with subpoenas that have been issued, and lack of cooperation?
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 28, 2019 17:52:36

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Oct 28, 2019 21:15:05

A WH national security official to tell Congress on Tuesday he heard Trump appeal to Ukraine’s president to investigate his leading political rival, a request the aide considered so damaging to American interests that he reported


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/us/p ... e=Homepage

Seems like that might be a problem for the President

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Mon Oct 28, 2019 22:49:27

The attacks on a Lt. Col. wounded in Iraq from the WH should be interesting to say the least.

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