GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Tue Aug 28, 2018 23:13:51

Something good happened today - looks like McSally is crushing the GOP sen primary and on early votes may clear 50%

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 29, 2018 06:48:51

No one in 1789 could have imagined a world with nukes and AK47s.

ptk, most of the populace wasn't allowed to vote, own land, and died before 50 years of age. millions of people were in chains in our country. this wasn't some pollyanna time. it's probably best to not compare 2018 to 1789 in any sort of negative way.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Wed Aug 29, 2018 06:49:22

Did Trump support any of them? Ward?

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Wizlah » Wed Aug 29, 2018 07:34:43

So I'm currently working on an essay around privacy and the cambridge analytica shitstorm. Anyhow, I'm reading through the UK Information Commissioner's update from July and their report on Democracy Disrupted. If you haven't had a chance to consider this stuff, it's worth a read for laying out the privacy issues as they relate to electoral process. ICO was clear btw that indequate third party consents and fair use statements (relating to fair processing of data, one of the key requirements of GDPR for any data collection) were across the board in the brexit referendum. Obviously that should come as no surprise.

Update report into ongoing investigation here: https://ico.org.uk/media/action-weve-ta ... update.pdf

Report into use of personal data by ICO here: https://ico.org.uk/media/action-weve-ta ... 110718.pdf

And just for comparison, a small qual study and lit review on use of personal data in german political campaigns here:

https://policyreview.info/articles/anal ... ng-germany
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 29, 2018 07:57:58

CalvinBall wrote:Did Trump support any of them? Ward?

no. last year winked at endorsing Ward and he, of course, pardoned Arpaio.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Aug 29, 2018 08:04:24

former State Treasurer Rob McCord sentenced to 30 months in federal prison for trying to use his office to get political contributions. what a dope. that race back then had Wolf dominated Allyson Schwartz, Rob McCord and Kate McGinty. what a boring crop of people

McCord was seeking $125,000 in donations from two firms, $25,000 from the managing partner of a Philadelphia law firm and up to $100,000 from the owners of a western Pennsylvania property management firm. He threatened to interfere with the firms’ ability to get state contracts if they did not provide the donation, if he lost the election.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Wizlah » Wed Aug 29, 2018 08:12:21

From the European Data Protection Supervisor, the independent supervisory authority of privacy and data protection in the EU:

The ensuing debate has revolved around the misleading, false or scurrilous information (‘content’) served to people with the intention of influencing political discourse and elections, a phenomenon come to be labelled ‘fake news’ or‘online disinformation’. Solutions have
focused on transparency measures, exposing the source of information while neglecting the accountability of players in the ecosystem who profit from harmful behaviour. Meanwhile market concentration and the rise of platform dominance present a new threat to media pluralism. For the EDPS, this crisis of confidence in the digital ecosystem illustrates the mutual dependency of privacy and freedom of expression. The diminution of intimate space available to people, as a result of unavoidable surveillance by companies and governments, has a chilling effect on people’s ability and willingness to express themselves and form relationships freely, including in the civic sphere so essential to the health of democracy.


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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Phred » Wed Aug 29, 2018 09:21:46

A PAC got their hands on the security clearance form of a candidate and released part of it. That seems unethical and possibly illegal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cia-officer-and-candidate-says-pac-got-her-security-clearance-application
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Wed Aug 29, 2018 09:58:57

Phred wrote:A PAC got their hands on the security clearance form of a candidate and released part of it. That seems unethical and possibly illegal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cia-officer-and-candidate-says-pac-got-her-security-clearance-application


This is probably highly illegal. They contain a ton of information.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:02:38

@realDonaldTrump
Hillary Clinton’s Emails, many of which are Classified Information, got hacked by China. Next move better be by the FBI & DOJ or, after all of their other missteps (Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, FISA, Dirty Dossier etc.), their credibility will be forever gone!

China? Oh word?

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:37:11

momadance wrote:
Phred wrote:A PAC got their hands on the security clearance form of a candidate and released part of it. That seems unethical and possibly illegal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cia-officer-and-candidate-says-pac-got-her-security-clearance-application


This is probably highly illegal. They contain a ton of information.

If they FOIA'd it, that would make it public info and not illegal. If they're lying about how they got it, that would be bad for them. You can FOIA FOIA requests so imagine this will have a resolution soon.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:54:29

momadance wrote:
Phred wrote:A PAC got their hands on the security clearance form of a candidate and released part of it. That seems unethical and possibly illegal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cia-officer-and-candidate-says-pac-got-her-security-clearance-application


This is probably highly illegal. They contain a ton of information.


Yeah, I'm thinking there is no way they obtained that through an FIA application, unless, of course, some incompetent Trumpie released the form by mistake. More likely, somebody from the PAC knew a sympathetic person with access to the form.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:06:58

can i FOIA a FOIA of a FOIA

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:08:36

If you do, I'll FOIA your FOIA of that FOIA for the FOIA
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:08:37

Don McGahn is Don McGone. Leaving 'in the fall'
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:12:16

thephan wrote:Don McGahn is Don McGone. Leaving 'in the fall'


I don't think Cohen will be his replacement
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:12:37

Republican candidate Ron DeSantis’ general election campaign for governor of Florida got off to an abysmal start on Wednesday morning when he went on Fox News and warned voters not to “monkey this up” by electing his Democratic opponent, Andrew Gillum, who would be the first African-American to lead the state.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:20:41

It's mind blowing to me how many political people say outwardly racist shit so frequently. How can you make it so far in the public eye and be that blatantly racist? incredible.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:34:27

McGahn did not know about Trump's tweet before it was sent and had not previously discussed his departure plans with POTUS, though it was open secret in the WH. He was surprised, though attitude was "of course it happened this way."
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:39:38

jerseyhoya wrote:
momadance wrote:
Phred wrote:A PAC got their hands on the security clearance form of a candidate and released part of it. That seems unethical and possibly illegal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-cia-officer-and-candidate-says-pac-got-her-security-clearance-application


This is probably highly illegal. They contain a ton of information.

If they FOIA'd it, that would make it public info and not illegal. If they're lying about how they got it, that would be bad for them. You can FOIA FOIA requests so imagine this will have a resolution soon.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/gracewyler/usps-releases-cia-officer-security-clearance-application

But BuzzFeed News can confirm that an unredacted copy of the federal security clearance application was obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request filed by America Rising, a research group allied with the Republican Party, which then shared it with the Congressional Leadership Fund. Spanberger, a Democrat, is challenging Republican Rep. David Brat in a Virginia congressional race that has become surprisingly competitive going into the fall midterm campaign.

Documents viewed by BuzzFeed News show that the request for Spanberger’s entire civilian personnel file was submitted early last month to the National Personnel Records Center, a division of the National Archives. The request, which sought records related to the former CIA officer’s employment dates, salaries, title, and position descriptions, did not explicitly mention the federal security clearance application, known as an SF-86.

The FOIA request specifically sought records from Spanberger’s official personnel folder from the US Postal Inspection Service, where she used to work.

Seems like the clearance application should not have been included in what was released through their request but was.

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