Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

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Postby pacino » Sun Oct 08, 2017 15:27:45

The photo of Pence at the Colts game that they posted in his jersey was 3 years old.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby smitty » Sun Oct 08, 2017 16:59:35

Doll Is Mine wrote:
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I asked @VP Pence to leave stadium if any players kneeled, disrespecting our country. I am proud of him and @SecondLady Karen.


So this is going to be a weekly thing now.

His problem is most NFL fans just want to sit back and enjoy the games on Sunday. Those who care deeply about this nonsense have probably already stopped watching or are going to anyway.

Today's stunt was an unforced error on their part because they're sound like a broken record. It was just too scripted and they're going to get called out for it. CNN has already called it a publicity stunt.


Pence doesn't understand how America works. I believe in peaceful protest. Because that is what our country is supposed to be all about. Pence doesn't get it. That's a sorry thing for a VP to do. He's un American.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby Soren » Sun Oct 08, 2017 18:01:39

The VP shitting on peaceful protests is just one more checkbox in the "Is this a banana republic?" quiz.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby The Savior » Sun Oct 08, 2017 19:08:05

Lotta taxpayer money wasted on that. 49ers have been protesting anthem for over a year. Happen to be Kaeps old team.
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby Slowhand » Sun Oct 08, 2017 20:16:46

@realDonaldTrump wrote:Nobody could have done what I’ve done for #PuertoRico with so little appreciation. So much work!


OK, he may have a point on the first sentence, especially if you replace "for" with "to".
How dare you interrupt my Lime Rickey!

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby JUburton » Sun Oct 08, 2017 21:02:28

The GOP is 60% 'lol liberals' and 40% fuck poor and non-white people. Disgusting party.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Oct 08, 2017 21:39:09

And it's only going to get worse. The Republican party in the Trump era will be radicalized. Moderate and mainstream Republicans will either be primaried or retire.

Corker is already done. I wouldn't be surprised if Susan Collins is one of the next to announce that she won't run for re-election. People like Jeff Flake are at risk of losing to extreme right candidates.

The only thing that can stop this madness if moderate Republican voters finally wake up and vote for Democrats in places like Arizona, Missouri, etc.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby wwry » Sun Oct 08, 2017 21:43:24

i don't think moderate republicans will ever vote for democrats (in large numbers to actually flip seats at least), trump proved that. the only way is to find a way get peeps who don't vote to vote, in all elections. and obviously gerrymandering, suppression and voter ID laws make that a depressing exercise to think about.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby agrudez » Sun Oct 08, 2017 21:52:40

Far right wack jobs winning primaries in red states might not be so bad. So far "moderate" republicans have been capitulating and cow towing to trump. Rand Paul and the Freedom Caucus have been fairly consistently blocking stuff, though. The whole Republican party is lock step ideologically, but the far right, thus far, has been unable to compromise on their "principles" in negotiations. In lieu of full left wing power across the three branches, gridlock with right wing infighting is a decent consolation prize - assuming, of course, we dont have a right wing president ruling through executive order.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby traderdave » Mon Oct 09, 2017 06:54:37

Slowhand wrote:
@realDonaldTrump wrote:Nobody could have done what I’ve done for #PuertoRico with so little appreciation. So much work!


OK, he may have a point on the first sentence, especially if you replace "for" with "to".


Poor Donald Trump. An island destroyed, dozens dead, most of Puerto Rico still without power or water, kids out of schools but Donald J. Trump is the victim. This asshole is seriously fucking deranged. In fact, that tweet had a nine-minute "lets everybody bow at the feet of the Fuhrer" video demonstrating Adolf's magnificence in Puerto Rico.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 07:20:39

I so hope that key Cowboys players exercise 1st amendment rights. Go Jerry
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 07:24:12

Moral standard barer Jason Miller wants Corker to step down so that the Governor can appoint someone who will support Donald Trump. What an idiot.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon Oct 09, 2017 07:59:50

Doll Is Mine wrote:And it's only going to get worse. The Republican party in the Trump era will be radicalized. Moderate and mainstream Republicans will either be primaried or retire.

Corker is already done. I wouldn't be surprised if Susan Collins is one of the next to announce that she won't run for re-election. People like Jeff Flake are at risk of losing to extreme right candidates.

The only thing that can stop this madness if moderate Republican voters finally wake up and vote for Democrats in places like Arizona, Missouri, etc.


It will get worse and then it will get better. American politics is marked by a constant pendulum swing from the left to right and back again. Remember, many people thought the GOP was dead in 2008. Don't despair and assume the same about the Democratic Party in 2018.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby thephan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 08:27:09

Every time I hear Wisconsin Representative Sean Duffy speak I am glad that I do not live in Wisconsin, while wondering what is the matter with his constituents. He is sort of Donald J Duffy. Administration is most effective ever, never before has the world come together over North Korean, the UN is done ignoring the US, Trump is masterfully in complete control of a grand strategy, and Puerto Rico deserves a rethinking of how the relief funds are spent to fix all these things that (previous administrations) have neglected.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby The Sarge » Mon Oct 09, 2017 08:31:44

thephan wrote:Every time I hear Wisconsin Representative Sean Duffy speak I am glad that I do not live in Wisconsin, while wondering what is the matter with his constituents. He is sort of Donald J Duffy. Administration is most effective ever, never before has the world come together over North Korean, the UN is done ignoring the US, Trump is masterfully in complete control of a grand strategy, and Puerto Rico deserves a rethinking of how the relief funds are spent to fix all these things that (previous administrations) have neglected.



He needs to go back to the Real World.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby JUburton » Mon Oct 09, 2017 08:34:29

06hawkalum wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:And it's only going to get worse. The Republican party in the Trump era will be radicalized. Moderate and mainstream Republicans will either be primaried or retire.

Corker is already done. I wouldn't be surprised if Susan Collins is one of the next to announce that she won't run for re-election. People like Jeff Flake are at risk of losing to extreme right candidates.

The only thing that can stop this madness if moderate Republican voters finally wake up and vote for Democrats in places like Arizona, Missouri, etc.


It will get worse and then it will get better. American politics is marked by a constant pendulum swing from the left to right and back again. Remember, many people thought the GOP was dead in 2008. Don't despair and assume the same about the Democratic Party in 2018.
While true, it's a very different story. There is a lot working against Democrats right now; disenfranchisement, gerrymandering, clustering, actual fake news, fox news (which is basically fake), and rampant disinformation.

The only thing that really worked in Democrats' favor in 2008 was that the Bush era was ending and we had Barack Obama.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby JUburton » Mon Oct 09, 2017 09:20:20

im gonna now post in memory of youseff but without the personal attacks

scalise is going to speak at the family research council's annual voters summit (labeled a hate group by splc). world would have been better off he if died.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby Phred » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:23:21

Monkeyboy wrote:Money in politics is fine as long as everyone has the same amount of money, which of course they don't and never will.

I wish more people would talk about public financing of elections. A guy I know from high school is a rabid republican and ran for some seat in Washington state. I asked him only one question about his politics, what did he think of public financing elections? He didn't really have an answer.

I really think it would fix many of our problems and, despite it being called "public financing," it would surely be cheaper for the country overall. It would need to be rebranded or people would start whining about their tax dollars.


Maybe we could do something like a salary cap? Each party gets X number of dollars to distribute among their candidates as they see fit. That way, if they want to send a message to candidate that they won't be receiving any help, they can.

It doesn't even have to be public money. Everybody can fundraise as much as they want but it all gets funneled into the party's pool and once they hit a certain amount, it gets capped. If a party never hits that cap, then that's their problem.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby pacino » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:33:23

Feinstein is running for re-election. Time to primary her.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:49:43

JUburton wrote:im gonna now post in memory of youseff but without the personal attacks

scalise is going to speak at the family research council's annual voters summit (labeled a hate group by splc). world would have been better off he if died.


Scalise would find this rather personal
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