Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:42:24

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BREAKING: @SenBobCorker unloads on @realDonaldTrump to @mkraju. "The debasement of our nation is what he will be remembered most for."

Trump "lacks the desire to be competent."
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:46:50

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You go out to the site and there are two points of contact that have email addresses of ldwwgroup.com, which turns out to be a marketing firm. I don't have time to dig around, but clearly this is super sketchy.

“The fact that there are so many utilities with experience in this and a huge track record of helping each other out, it is at least odd why [the utility] would go to Whitefish,” said Susan F. Tierney, a former senior official at the Energy Department and state regulatory agencies. “I’m scratching my head wondering how it all adds up.”

Whitefish Energy is based in Whitefish, Mont., the home town of Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke. Its chief executive, Andy Techmanski, and Zinke acknowledge knowing one another — but only, Zinke’s office said in an email, because Whitefish is a small town where “everybody knows everybody.” One of Zinke’s sons “joined a friend who worked a summer job” at one of Techmanski’s construction sites, the email said. Whitefish said he worked as a “flagger.”

Zinke’s office said he had no role in Whitefish securing the contract for work in Puerto Rico. Techmanski also said Zinke was not involved.

NBC Montana quoted Techmanski in a report Oct. 1 as saying he had asked Zinke for help in getting personnel and equipment to the territory. Chiames, the Whitefish spokesman, confirmed that “Once the company got the go-ahead from PREPA on September 26 to begin work, company executives did reach out to contacts in case they could help expedite getting qualified linesmen to the island.”

everything they accused the Clintons of doing they decide to do in a more brazen manner

FBI better already be looking into this.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:47:53

pacino wrote:Trump "lacks the desire to be competent."

That's a nice burn.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:48:51

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Monkeyboy wrote:assuming we survive, you really have to wonder how much damage this is doing to the office of the president and to government in general. I'm not talking about policy or scandals, just the damage to the institutions. How do you walk back this level of craziness? Everything will be on the table now and people will just say, "Well, he/she isn't as bad as Trump," or, "At least he/she didn't do x,y,z like Trump did." Being a banana republic is now normal.

Putin must be sitting in his office with a bowl of popcorn, laughing his ass off.

I'm hoping we swing back to someone within the next 2 elections who is partially elected because of the way s/he carries themselves. Basically, someone like Obama, who is pretty spotless from an integrity standpoint.



surely you jest. the dude let his wife wear a sleeveless dress.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:49:11

I can't decide if its

1. this stinks so badly that it cannot possibly be as bad as it seems.
2. this administration is so brazen and stupid that they don't see an issue with this and think they'll never face consequences.
(jk its obviously 2)

wouldn't all records relating to this company's choosing be FOIA-able?

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby traderdave » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:51:34

slugsrbad wrote:
Donald Trump wrote:Bob Corker, who helped President O give us the bad Iran Deal & couldn't get elected dog catcher in Tennessee, is now fighting Tax Cuts....


Donald Trump wrote:...Corker dropped out of the race in Tennesse when I refused to endorse him, and now is only negative on anything Trump. Look at his record!


Senator Bob Corker wrote:Same untruths from an utterly untruthful president. #AlertTheDaycareStaff


I'm a bit ashamed to admit that the "#AlertTheDaycareStaff" bit made me LOL. And the Whitefish Energy stuff is so fucking obvious that it makes you doubt whether or not there is a connection.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:51:37

JUburton wrote:I can't decide if its

1. this stinks so badly that it cannot possibly be as bad as it seems.
2. this administration is so brazen and stupid that they don't see an issue with this and think they'll never face consequences.
(jk its obviously 2)

wouldn't all records relating to this company's choosing be FOIA-able?

I'm assuming there were palms greased... you likely wouldn't have those types of transactions being request-able.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:52:53

Werthless wrote:
JUburton wrote:I can't decide if its

1. this stinks so badly that it cannot possibly be as bad as it seems.
2. this administration is so brazen and stupid that they don't see an issue with this and think they'll never face consequences.
(jk its obviously 2)

wouldn't all records relating to this company's choosing be FOIA-able?

I'm assuming there were palms greased... you likely wouldn't have those types of transactions being request-able.
yeah but theyre so dumb there must be some EMAILS.

And if the public records show that there was clearly something else at play then maybe a criminal investigation could follow suit.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Werthless » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:54:29

Yeah, that's a reasonable guess.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:55:49

that's my thing; could it possibly be this obvious? like, it's cartoonish-level corruption. you'd ask for a re-write on the script to make it more plausible. could it all be on the up and up somehow? it's making me triple-guess everything.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:56:42

pacino wrote:that's my thing; could it possibly be this obvious? like, it's cartoonish-level corruption. you'd ask for a re-write on the script to make it more plausible. could it all be on the up and up somehow? it's making me triple-guess everything.
dammit they really are playing 7 dimensional chess

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Oct 24, 2017 09:57:09

Mueller now investigating the bad Podesta

the stupid one helped sink a presidential campaign, so it's time to get the brother. :lol:
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:07:27

Im in DC. Corker spoke to our group this morning then went to blast trump minutes later. Pretty incredible.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:08:20

JUburton wrote:
pacino wrote:that's my thing; could it possibly be this obvious? like, it's cartoonish-level corruption. you'd ask for a re-write on the script to make it more plausible. could it all be on the up and up somehow? it's making me triple-guess everything.
dammit they really are playing 7 dimensional chess



please pick up, there's a William of Ockham on line 1

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:08:58

I don't recall Corker saying anything like this before the election. Was he so stupid that he couldn't anticipate all this? He really should apologize to the American people for contributing to Trumps election, or at least doing nothing to stop it. And sure, there is some perverse satisfaction in reading his tweets, I guess, but really I'd like to see Corker actually do something. He's not running for re-election, so really there's no excuse. I mean, at least McCain actually cast a vote that derailed the Trump/Republican agenda.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:10:56

Monkeyboy wrote:assuming we survive, you really have to wonder how much damage this is doing to the office of the president and to government in general. I'm not talking about policy or scandals, just the damage to the institutions.


This is the whole of it, isn't it. This is the Bannon & friends goal in total. Level the institution, cripple its capability, negate its power, then rampage. Some select group can do whatever it wants w/o concern. Trump is just an idiot pawn. The tension is forcing him to recognize that this legacy will be a horror VS the allure of his wealth/access enabling him to do whatever he wants forever more. The chasm between the haves and have nots is creating the dystopia vision the Alt Right favors, with little understanding that heap of those asshats will be enslaved by the new masters as well. Anyway, if it all crumbles due to incompetence being cleverly orchestrated, the recovery is larger then life I have left. That is a very dire vision.
yawn

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:13:46

CalvinBall wrote:Im in DC. Corker spoke to our group this morning then went to blast trump minutes later. Pretty incredible.


For work, or for modern slavery/human trafficking?
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:26:57

CalvinBall wrote:Im in DC. Corker spoke to our group this morning then went to blast trump minutes later. Pretty incredible.

put this on your end of the year review
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:27:54

slugsrbad wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Im in DC. Corker spoke to our group this morning then went to blast trump minutes later. Pretty incredible.


For work, or for modern slavery/human trafficking?

a twofer?
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:28:02

If Trump nukes Tennessee do we think that it makes the 2020 map more favorable for democrats?

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