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Unread postby thephan » Fri Oct 13, 2017 07:27:22

Good news, we haven an Afghanistan plan. That's where the healthcare money is going to go! We're going to double the size of the Afghan Air Force, we're going to double the size of their special forces, we're going to arm them as well as train them, and we're going to do a similar activity in Pakistan with our good friends.

When does this all happen you ask? Will be done in Afghanistan and 5 years.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 07:35:22

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Yeah, that was definitely a miscalculation on his part.

should've tried to incorporate 'affordable' into the title or something; Obama really let his ego in on that decision.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 07:35:39

The Savior wrote:Trump dead yet?

he's going to live forever
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 07:37:10

White House has announcedwe are going to essentially stop bothering to adhere to the Iranian nuclear deal but will keep it, whatever that means. President Don will speak at 1245pm today. I guess the executive can use its power to screw up the ACA but not keep this deal. This appears to be another punt.

The move to "decertify" Iran's compliance in the nuclear pact doesn't amount to ripping up the accord, as he promised to do as a candidate.
Instead, Trump will foist the agreement upon Congress, which now has 60 days to determine a path forward. Republicans and Democrats alike -- who also face upcoming battles over taxes, immigration and health care -- have shown few signs they're willing to take up another divisive issue.
If lawmakers decide to impose new punitive economic sanctions on Iran, the deal will likely fall apart. Instead, the Trump administration wants members of Congress to adopt new measures that would keep the deal intact, while spelling out parameters by which the US would impose new sanctions should Iran violate its agreements.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 07:58:53

sheriff in Louisiana is upset that non-violent felons are being released because he won't be able to use as many for slave labor
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 08:12:01

Cuomo defends keeping Weinstein money:
Cuomo, a Democrat who is positioning himself for a possible presidential bid in 2020, has raised $118,204 from Weinstein and his company since his 2006 campaign for attorney general. The governor’s campaign said late Oct. 6 it will donate $50,000 of those contributions — the amount contributed in 2016 and 2017 to his planned reelection bid next year — to an unspecified woman’s group.

As of July, Cuomo had $25.7 million in his campaign war chest.

Most other politicians — including Sens. Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand and state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman — are donating all the Weinstein money they’ve received. Cuomo, who has raised more from Weinstein than the others, says that money in previous campaigns has “been spent and is gone,” and therefore cannot be redirected.

“I think it’s a symbol, but I think you also have to keep focus on the issue as opposed to the symbol: The issue is protection of women and the respect for women taking action to stop discrimination and assault,” the governor told reporters after an event on Long Island. “That’s what this is really about: It’s bigger than Harvey Weinstein. I have three daughters — I want to make sure at the end of the day, this world is a safer, better world for my three daughters.”

just donate the fucking money, you dope. no matter how right he thinks he is, the headline has been written.

in any event, if this prevents him from entering the 2020 Democratic primary I'm cool with it.

someone a bit politically smarter and probably a better person:
“No one in their right mind should be keeping contributions from Harvey Weinstein,” New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, a frequent Cuomo foe, said Thursday, though he did not mention the governor by name. “My message to everyone who has current accounts with money from Harvey Weinstein is: Give that money back. Give it to charity. Get the hell away from it.”
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Fri Oct 13, 2017 08:44:57

Collins staying in the Senate. That's... disappointing? You can never tell what Maine will spit out, so at least she is a known quantity and an actual moderate Republican.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby curveball » Fri Oct 13, 2017 08:46:39

Trump did his reverse Robin Hood last night. He's taking healthcare coverage from the working poor and their children and he intends to give the money to the 1% through his tax reform. How can he even deny that he ran for the office of President just to enrich himself and his family. His family is going to save billions of dollars if his tax cuts get forced through. I really hope that the Senate Democrats put the screws to his grand plan.

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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 08:51:04

slugsrbad wrote:Collins staying in the Senate. That's... disappointing? You can never tell what Maine will spit out, so at least she is a known quantity and an actual moderate Republican.

blech

coulda picked that seat up
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby slugsrbad » Fri Oct 13, 2017 09:14:38

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slugsrbad wrote:Collins staying in the Senate. That's... disappointing? You can never tell what Maine will spit out, so at least she is a known quantity and an actual moderate Republican.

blech

coulda picked that seat up


Haven't won a "Democratic" election at the Senate level since George Mitchell was re-elected in 1988 (current Sen. Angus King is an Independent who caucuses Democrat). The state also twice elected their current shithole Governor and Trump got nearly 45% of the vote.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 09:41:41

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slugsrbad wrote:Collins staying in the Senate. That's... disappointing? You can never tell what Maine will spit out, so at least she is a known quantity and an actual moderate Republican.

blech

coulda picked that seat up


Haven't won a "Democratic" election at the Senate level since George Mitchell was re-elected in 1988 (current Sen. Angus King is an Independent who caucuses Democrat). The state also twice elected their current #$!&@ Governor and Trump got nearly 45% of the vote.

oh no, I get that, but I'd still rather take 40% odds than a 100% loss. she's fine on some basic issues but she's still voting for all those judicial nominees and lots of other stuff.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 09:42:30


for the first time i actually heard someone in 'real life' call CNN 'fake news'. it was at a soccer game. amazing to hear it out of the mouth of supposed intelligent adults and not mean it in an absurdist manner.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:24:13

Trump upset at own tax plan

can't figure out if someone pro or anti Trump planted this
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:40:38

slugsrbad wrote:Trump is ending CSR payments which are intended to keep premiums down. He is doing everything he can to sabotage the ACA by Executive Order. Where are the sanctimonious Congress people who lamented any EO President Obama passed?



I can't imagine this is going to go over well. Will people even know what happened?
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Oct 13, 2017 13:19:18

Come on CONGRESS, do what you do best, and do nothing so the US stays in the Iran Nuclear!

It is sad Tough Talk Trump feels he can admit no wrong, and his bad ideas really do not need to be acted on.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Oct 13, 2017 13:29:41

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slugsrbad wrote:Trump is ending CSR payments which are intended to keep premiums down. He is doing everything he can to sabotage the ACA by Executive Order. Where are the sanctimonious Congress people who lamented any EO President Obama passed?



I can't imagine this is going to go over well. Will people even know what happened?


Its because he is a moron.

Now, because I am busy/lazy, can someone tell me when this will first trickle down like a falling boulder on the vulnerable folks how need this? Yes, there is some morbid curiosity on my part, but I am also expecting that there will soon be a call from the safety net organizations I support to do something financially. I have to do what I can, just not understanding the whole of this because I have had the opportunity, and good fortune to not live near the margin.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Oct 13, 2017 14:14:26

CNN wrote:
The first tasks his administration with increasing competition among health care insurers, a move very likely to drive younger people out of the insurance marketplace entirely and driving up costs across the board. The second, announced late Thursday night, stops the federal subsidies being paid to insurance companies to incentivize them to cover lower-income Americans.


He only grasps populism. Hate - hate - hate on Obama.
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Re: Tillerson says more on Trump in the politics thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 14:15:43

woody/TCC alert, the House Intelligence Committee has expanded their Russian interference investigation to include Cambridge Analytica, the Trump campaign's data and voter targeting firm.
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Unread postby pacino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 14:17:54

thephan wrote:
CNN wrote:
The first tasks his administration with increasing competition among health care insurers, a move very likely to drive younger people out of the insurance marketplace entirely and driving up costs across the board. The second, announced late Thursday night, stops the federal subsidies being paid to insurance companies to incentivize them to cover lower-income Americans.


He only grasps populism. Hate - hate - hate on Obama.

which then raises the premiums for everyone and those who qualify for individual subsidies then receive higher subsidies. This move simply makes premiums higher for people who don't receive subsidies, those who either buy off healthcare.gov or buy on it and don't qualify for help due to income. it also ends up costing the feds MORE MONEY. it's just stupid.
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