...PPP!!...Politics.Plus.Poll...What a relief!!!

If the 2020 Presidential election were tommorrow who would you vote for?

Trump
2
4%
Democratic Challenger no matter who
39
81%
Other
7
15%
 
Total votes : 48

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Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Oct 05, 2017 17:24:48

Ivana Trump, ladies and gentlemen:

(In all seriousness, I wish all the Trumps and Kusnhers thought this way so they can get the fuck out of our government)

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Unread postby smitty » Thu Oct 05, 2017 17:24:58

He'd have to be convicted before he gets the boot. Impeachment is merely the first step.
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Unread postby Youseff » Thu Oct 05, 2017 17:58:33

Roger Dorn wrote:Each day that passes I'm more worried about 2020...He seems to be getting more senile and I'm convinced he will contest the election and call on half the country to deny the results. This basically keeps me up at night.


I'm also concerned the Dems will trot out another bum. Plus I'm concerned that his base still thinks a diaper wearing senile guy is cool to have in the WH.
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Unread postby wwry » Thu Oct 05, 2017 18:02:49

yeah i've had a bad feeling trump will win again. i think his cult of personality is that strong and as his opposition its hard to even reckon his existence as a viable candidate to combat him in ways that actually hurt him.
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Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 05, 2017 18:11:52

Can someone read this and give me a recap. Got through some but it's kind of confusing because I don't really know who all the people are.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstei ... hqrllrXY32

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Unread postby swishnicholson » Thu Oct 05, 2017 18:24:51

CalvinBall wrote:Can someone read this and give me a recap. Got through some but it's kind of confusing because I don't really know who all the people are.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstei ... hqrllrXY32


I think it's kind of confusing because it's kind of a mess. As far as I can tell the "explosive" emails reveal that the right-wing asshats associated with Breitbart liked to joke about being right wing asshats associated with Breitbart.
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Unread postby thephan » Thu Oct 05, 2017 18:36:26

Current VA governors race polling is 53% Dem, 40% Repub, and 4% Nut job Lib.
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Unread postby Bucky » Thu Oct 05, 2017 18:41:04

well, it's war now. they've claimed 80s synthpop as part of their movement. They can't have it. I won't stand for it.

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Unread postby 06hawkalum » Thu Oct 05, 2017 19:04:04

wwry wrote:yeah i've had a bad feeling trump will win again. i think his cult of personality is that strong and as his opposition its hard to even reckon his existence as a viable candidate to combat him in ways that actually hurt him.


I think that fear is unfounded. Far fewer Republicans will hold their noses and vote for Trump.

Also, keep in mind that Trump is in horrible shape and experiencing the most stress in his life. There is a good chance his body will give out in the next three years. His mind clearly already has after all.
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Unread postby JFLNYC » Thu Oct 05, 2017 19:07:11

They’ll just stuff him, have someone tweet outrageous stuff as if its him and let Pence rum the country.
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Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Oct 05, 2017 20:16:32

More evidence Trump is actually trying to tank ACA
Quick Google shows that GoGo is wrong with regards to the Kiwi and the Banana.

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Unread postby slugsrbad » Thu Oct 05, 2017 20:34:42

Quick Google shows that GoGo is wrong with regards to the Kiwi and the Banana.

Doll Is Mine wrote:This Ellen DeGeneres look alike on ESPN is annoying. Who the hell is he?

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Unread postby Youseff » Thu Oct 05, 2017 22:28:08

CalvinBall wrote:Can someone read this and give me a recap. Got through some but it's kind of confusing because I don't really know who all the people are.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstei ... hqrllrXY32


Bannon groomed Milo into a big star at Brietbart. Milo used Nazis & white nationalists to write their manifesto, form his sensibilities & beliefs, and plant the seeds for his articles. Milos articles were ghost written and then sent to Brietbart editors who tried to remove the most over signs of racism while retaining their racist core. Bannon then moved on to the Trump campaign where much of this racist messaging was passed on to and then eventually used by Trump, including the Stephen Miller penned Trump speech in Poland.
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Unread postby Youseff » Thu Oct 05, 2017 22:30:49

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Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Oct 05, 2017 22:36:59

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump
Ralph Northam, who is running for Governor of Virginia, is fighting for the violent MS-13 killer gangs & sanctuary cities. Vote Ed Gillespie!


Ralph Northam‏ @RalphNortham
TBH I've been expecting this. Donate here: http://bit.ly/2ggnAY8


By the way, as far as I know, there are no sanctuary cities in VA but I could be wrong. Trump is spewing lies again.

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Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Oct 05, 2017 22:42:00

slugsrbad wrote:http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/354170-trump-told-hhs-to-deny-request-to-fix-iowa-obamacare-market-report


This is disgusting.

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Unread postby jerseyhoya » Thu Oct 05, 2017 23:04:46

The Mercer family is deserving of every insult the left levies against the Koch brothers (American heroes unfairly maligned). They are utterly repellent humans who are, with terrible motives, funding institutions that are designed to destroy American society.

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Unread postby Youseff » Thu Oct 05, 2017 23:10:01

jerseyhoya wrote:The Mercer family is deserving of every insult the left levies against the Koch brothers (American heroes unfairly maligned). They are utterly repellent humans who are, with terrible motives, funding institutions that are designed to destroy American society.


Koch bros get credit for funding some nice arts shit but they're in the same boat with your buddies at Exxon for their role in creating dishonest narratives about climate change so your beloved plutocrats can make more money quarter over quarter. they're absolute scum.
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Unread postby drsmooth » Thu Oct 05, 2017 23:19:05

JFLNYC wrote: and let Pence rum the country.


if that's their platform they've won my vote
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Unread postby Youseff » Thu Oct 05, 2017 23:22:34

A Koch-owned cellulose facility in Taylor County Florida was responsible for two successivevchlorine dioxide chemical leaks in May, 2014.

Koch Pipeline Company spilled 17,000 gallons of crude oil (400 barrels) near Austin Texas in October, 2013. A road had to be built to access the spill site for cleanup, which contaminated livestock ponds. Months before the spill, Koch Pipeline was gifted it’s second annual “Environmental Performance Award”from the American Petroleum Institute, the top U.S. oil and gas lobbying organization.

Subsidiaries of Koch Carbon have accumulated massive piles of petroleum coke in U.S. cities like Detroit and Chicago, where the toxic dust has blown into peoples’ homes from a 5-story-tall pile of petcoke. Petcoke is a byproduct of refining tar sands that is usually burned like coal. Petcoke, which is more carbon-intensive than coal, is typically exported and burned in other countries with little to no air or climate regulations. While Detroit’s mayor ordered Koch to move its petcoke pile, Chicago regulators and politicians have not acted with the same urgency despite sustained local protests from community members, nurses, andthreats of lawsuits from environmental groups. In response, Koch claims it will add protections to its unlined pile, which could take two years.

Facing “enormous” cleanup costs for soil and groundwater contamination and high crude oil prices, Flint Hills announced in 2014 that it would permanently close its North Pole refinery outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. Koch blames contamination on the refinery’s previous owner, Williams Companies.

Ongoing, permitted releases of hazardous chemicals including benzene, sulfuric acid, hydrogen cyanide from Koch’s oil refinery in Corpus Christi, Texas, where refinery communities experience high rates of illnesses known to be associated with the chemicals released.

Millions of gallons of toxic paper mill waste from Koch-owned Georgia-Pacific facility in Crossett, Arkansas. A 2011 complaint to regional and national Environmental Protection Agency offices, filed by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) and Ouachita Riverkeeper, alleged that Koch’s plant was “Discharging 45 million gallons per day of paper-mill waste, including ammonia and chloride, and metals such as zinc, copper, and mercury.” The EPA dismissed the complaint on the grounds that Koch’s pollution was permitted. PEER and Ouachita noted that, “Koch Industries has persuaded the State of Arkansas to issue the Georgia-Pacific mill a permit that in essence removes water quality standards for the creek, on the self-fulfilling grounds that it can never be restored to a biologically viable stream.”

In 2009, the US Justice Department and EPA announced in 2009 that Koch Industries’Invista subsidiary would pay a $1.7 million penalty and spend $500 million to fix environmental violations at facilities in seven states, in an agreement with the US EPA and Department of Justice.

In May 2001, Koch Industries paid $25 million to settle with the US Government over a long-standing suit brought by Bill Koch – one of the brothers bought out in 1983 – for the company’s long-standing practice of illegally removing oil from federal and Indian lands. The value of oil that brother Bill Koch accused Koch Industries of stealing was worth $133 million – over $255 million in 2014 dollars.

In late 2000, the company was charged with covering up the illegal releases of 91 tons of the known carcinogen benzene from its refinery in Corpus Christi. Initially facing a 97-count indictment and potential fines of $350 million, Koch cut a deal with then-Attorney General John Ashcroft to drop all major charges in exchange for a guilty plea for falsifying documents, and a $20 million settlement. Informing the federal case, a former Koch employee blew the whistle on the company for allegedly falsifying its emissions reports, downplaying the amounts of toxic chemicals it released.

In 2000, the EPA fined Koch Industries $30 million for its role in 300 oil spills that resulted in more than three million gallons of crude oil leaking into ponds, lakes, streams and coastal waters.

In 1999 a Koch subsidiary pleaded guilty to charges that it had negligently allowed aviation fuel to leak into waters near the Mississippi River from its refinery in Rosemount, Minnesota, and that it had illegally dumped a million gallons of high-ammonia wastewater onto the ground and into the Mississippi.

Koch’s negligence toward environmental safety has led to tragic losses of life. In 1996, a rusty Koch pipeline leaked flammable butane near a Texas residential neighborhood. Warned by the smell of gas, two teenagers drove their truck toward the nearest payphone to call for help, but they never made it. Sparks from their truck ignited the gas cloud and the two burned alive. The National Transportation Safety Board determined that “the probable cause of this accident was the failure of Koch to adequately protect its pipeline from corrosion” and the ineffectiveness of Koch’s program to educate local residents about how to respond during a pipeline leak.


sued by the EPA, slowed down by the EPA and then....

Koch Industries spent part of $3.1 million to help confirm Scott Pruitt as head of the EPA, filings show


how diseased and rotten of brain must one have to consider these selfish scumbags heroes?
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