New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:21:16

NickSixers wrote:Per the Failing NYT:
As late as one hour before the decision was to be announced, administration officials privately expressed concern that Mr. Trump might not fully grasp the details of the steps he was about to take, and when he discovered their full impact, would change his mind, according to a person familiar with their thinking who spoke on condition of anonymity without authorization to comment on it.

this explains the chyron up thread

trump himself is simply stupid, he just wants to keep his 'promises' to his base
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby JFLNYC » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:23:37

Once again he wants Congress to save him from himself.

Good luck with that.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 05, 2017 13:06:46

pacino wrote:
NickSixers wrote:Per the Failing NYT:
As late as one hour before the decision was to be announced, administration officials privately expressed concern that Mr. Trump might not fully grasp the details of the steps he was about to take, and when he discovered their full impact, would change his mind, according to a person familiar with their thinking who spoke on condition of anonymity without authorization to comment on it.

this explains the chyron up thread

trump himself is simply stupid, he just wants to keep his 'promises' to his base

no he is playing five dimensional chess

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby thephan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 13:48:00

pacino wrote:...this explains the chyron up thread


Before Trump almost no one knew what a chyron was.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby traderdave » Tue Sep 05, 2017 13:50:20

Hillary Clinton casts Bernie Sanders as an unrealistic over-promiser in her new book, according to excerpts posted by a group of Clinton supporters. She said that his attacks against her during the primary caused "lasting damage" and paved the way for "(Donald) Trump's 'Crooked Hillary' campaign."

Clinton, in a book that will be released September 12 entitled "What Happened," said Sanders "had to resort to innuendo and impugning my character" because the two Democrats "agreed on so much." In the book, Clinton noted that the Vermont independent "isn't a Democrat." "That's not a smear, that's what he says," she wrote. "He didn't get into the race to make sure a Democrat won the White House, he got in to disrupt the Democratic Party." After outlining how she disagrees with Sanders' view of the Democratic Party, Clinton concludes, "I am proud to be a Democrat and I wish Bernie were, too."

Clinton wrote that President Barack Obama counseled her to "grit my teeth and lay off Bernie as much as I could," according to the excerpts. That strategy, Clinton wrote, made her feel she was "in a straitjacket." She noted that Jake Sullivan, her top policy aide, told her that Sanders' campaign strategy reminded him of a scene from the movie "There's Something About Mary," where a hitchhiker says he has a plan to roll out seven-minute abs to top the famous eight-minute abs. "Why, why not six-minutes abs?" Ben Stiller's character asks.

Clinton wrote: "That's what it was like in policy debates with Bernie. We would promise a bold infrastructure investment plan or an ambitious new apprenticeship program for young people, and then Bernie would announce basically the same thing, but bigger. On issue after issue, it was like he kept promising four-minute abs, or even no-minutes abs. Magic abs!"


I wonder if she takes any blame for the loss in her new 500-page paperweight or if she just defers blame to everything and everyone else, like she has the past 10 months.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 05, 2017 13:54:19

magic abs does sound p great

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Sep 05, 2017 13:57:58

i want to retroactively vote for magic abs


how tone deaf, and what good timing!
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby thephan » Tue Sep 05, 2017 14:40:18

Such whining. She needs to find some type of 12 step thing she can go to so that she can accept, then get out of the way?
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Sep 05, 2017 14:44:53

my brother said he'd read this book and now i have to find a new roommate.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 05, 2017 14:53:25

i agree with her

/shruggie

that said i hope htis book tour ends abruptly and we never hear from her again

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Youseff » Tue Sep 05, 2017 14:56:40

Don't agree with her at all, but I still think Bernie's followers were too over zealous in their hatred of her after the primaries were done. Many many of them spent more time bitching about her than they did Trump long after it made sense to.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:07:50

that can all be true about overzealously disliking someone (that's what happens in campaigns) but it's September 2017. let's move on. all of us.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:10:35

President Obama responded to the DACA situation. It's a good response, but I wanted to highlight a part that stuck out:
Ultimately, this is about basic decency.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Youseff » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:12:16

I'm still mad at her. I feel like that's fair. She's the worst Dem nominee in modern history and that includes Walter Mondale. She's in part responsible for this mess.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby pacino » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:17:29

Durbin and Graham are introducing a DREAM bill

wait no damn wall funding attached!
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:20:07

I like Hillary, always will.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby PhillieMooDo » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:22:32

Youseff wrote:I'm still mad at her. I feel like that's fair. She's the worst Dem nominee in modern history and that includes Walter Mondale. She's in part responsible for this mess.

This is absolute nonsense.
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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:26:27

look, the political machine moves slowly. you don't get earth shattering changes out of the blue. everything that happens is an incremental change on top of the other. a vet of the political system, like sanders was, knows this. he was basically the democrat version of Trump. Over promise on a populus message that had no shot of being achieved.

unfortunately he helped split the party(Hillary being a dynastic politician contributed to the american public being on the see-saw) and now we're stuck with Trump.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby JUburton » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:28:44

Don't think she was a terrible person but wasn't a good candidate. A large portion of that through no fault of her own.

Agree on overzealous Bernie bros but it's been almost a year. This isn't helping anything. Except her bank account I guess.

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Re: New plan, send the Klan to Afghanistan, man-politics

Unread postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 05, 2017 15:35:15

Eh, let's be honest (and this is coming from someone who is liberal and really like Bernie Sanders), Hillary was getting attacked from all sides but it was those on the left that really fucked her over.

And before you say, it was because Hillary was the wrong candidate. Well, these same idiots are now going after Kamala Harris, who is a progressive and a truly important voice in the Democratic party right now.

These people are dumb. It's as if you have to be openly socialist to earn their vote.

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