Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby thephan » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:07:36

I missed the whole strange tale of Sid Bowdidg, NH Massage Therapist to appointee to be the Head of DOE Tech Transfer Office to unemployed appointee when his anti-Muslim social media posts were discovered (amazing, but true). Just makes you wonder

If you wonder what the job is, it is to overseeing the policies focused on the commercialization of billions of dollars of federal research.I worked with this process 5 or so years ago and it is complex. The office is supposed to make it easier, at lease providing a place of authority inside DOE to arbitrate and deal make. The biggest hurdle was the gap between the labs wanting to productize, and no one reasonably qualified to answer from the parent organization if this was good for both the market and equatable to the government.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:17:57

PRRI poll:
White evangelical Protestants (56%) stand out as the only major religious group that favors allowing small business owners to refuse goods or services to gay and lesbian people on religious grounds. Fewer than one-third of white mainline Protestants (32%), Catholics (28%), black Protestants (24%), religiously unaffiliated Americans (21%), and members of non-Christian traditions (18%) support a religious exemption for small business owners. Notably, despite opposition to same-sex marriage, more than seven in ten (73%) black Protestants oppose allowing small business owners to refuse service to gay and lesbian people.

Same-sex marriage now garners majority support among most religious groups. Roughly two-thirds of white mainline Protestants (66%) and Catholics (68%), and more than eight in ten (84%) religiously unaffiliated Americans and members of non-Christian religious traditions (86%) favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally. In stark contrast, only about one-third (34%) of white evangelical Protestants and roughly half (47%) of black Protestants support same-sex marriage.

Notably, Republicans are significantly more likely to say that whites, rather than blacks, experience a lot of discrimination in the U.S. today (43% vs. 27%, respectively). Democrats and independents are far more likely to say blacks experience a lot of discrimination than to say the same about whites (82% vs. 19% and 59% vs. 30%, respectively). The partisan gap in perceptions of discrimination against blacks has increased substantially over the last four years, driven primarily by shifts among Democrats. In 2013, about two-thirds (66%) of Democrats compared to roughly one-third (32%) of Republicans expressed the view that discrimination against blacks in the U.S. is common. Notably, white and nonwhite Democrats recorded nearly identical changes in opinion.

Religious differences are also striking, with white evangelical Protestants standing out from other religious Americans. White evangelicals are more likely to say Christians face a lot of discrimination than they are to say Muslims face a lot of discrimination (57% vs. 44%, respectively). White evangelicals are the only major religious group in which a majority say Christians face a lot of discrimination. In contrast, roughly three-quarters of religiously unaffiliated Americans (77%) and nonwhite Protestants (75%), and more than six in ten white Catholics (64%) and white mainline Protestants (63%) agree Muslims face a lot of discrimination. Fewer than half of nonwhite Protestants (40%), white mainline Protestants (30%), white Catholics (26%) and religiously unaffiliated Americans (23%) say Christians experience a lot of discrimination.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby Gimpy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:21:57

Mad Dog Mattis said climate change is destabilizing parts of the world. EPA head Scott Pruitt claims climate change isn't real. The world is a crazy place.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:27:13

Southern Baptists are trying to oust a leader that doens't back Trump
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:38:26

pacino wrote:Southern Baptists are trying to oust a leader that doens't back Trump


Saw the Islamic center pretty much forced Hamid out for supporting him.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:44:01

ReadingPhilly wrote:
pacino wrote:Southern Baptists are trying to oust a leader that doens't back Trump


Saw the Islamic center pretty much forced Hamid out for supporting him.

Really weird move to go from 'Steve' to Hamid to begin with if this was an issue. I tried to ask him why he supported Trump and he just said how he was a businessman.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:12:42

former NC Gov Pat McCory says he's having a hard time getting work because people make assumptions about him.

Must be rough, bro.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby kruker » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:31:55

drsmooth wrote:
kruker wrote:It's ridiculous that a very large swath of the public doesn't have to even think about federal taxes.


It's ridiculous that CEOs are paid hundreds of times what their least-paid fulltime employees are

because "It's not about the dollars, it's about getting the rest of the population into the discussion"


Why does this have to be mutually exclusive? Oh, because that's your shtick. Got it.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:44:29

Libers would be foolish to target Joe Manchin:
West Virginia leans heavily Republican on the federal level. Trump won it by 42 percentage points in 2016. Republican Shelley Moore Capito easily dispatched — by 28 percentage points — Democrat Natalie Tennant in the 2014 U.S. Senate race — the last Senate race in West Virginia with a Democrat not named Manchin on the ballot. Tennant, who was the secretary of state, was deemed a “top recruit.” But she performed about as you’d expect for a non-incumbent Democrat running for the Senate from West Virginia.

So I can see why progressives would be peeved with Manchin. But it’s sort of silly to compare Manchin to the median Democrat. He represents West Virginia! FiveThirtyEight’s “Trump Score,” which ignores party and instead compares how often members vote with Trump to how often we would expect them to based on Trump’s share of the vote in their state, shows Manchin as one of the Democrats’ most valuable members. Manchin votes for the Trump position occasionally, but he does so about 33 percentage points less than senators from similarly red states.

In other words, Manchin’s real worth to Democrats is that he’s a Democrat, because a Republican from West Virginia would probably vote GOP far more often. In fact, West Virginia’s other senator, Capito, has voted with Trump 100 percent of the time.

be cool if people could pick their battles in 2018...
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby traderdave » Wed Mar 15, 2017 13:49:16

“That evidence still remains the same,” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told reporters at a press conference Wednesday on Capitol Hill. “We don’t have any evidence that that took place.” But Nunes also said that his assessment depends on how literally you take Trump’s tweets.
“I think the challenge here is, President Obama wouldn’t physically go over and wiretap Trump Tower,” he said. “So now you have to decide, Are you going to take the tweets literally? And if you are, then clearly the president is wrong.”

Exactly how fucking far onto Trump's knob are these idiots? First, even Trump did not suggested that Obama, himself, wiretapped Trump Tower. Trump's tweet said that "Obama had my wires tapped", obviously implying that Obama ordered somebody to do it. Second, the man is the leader of the free world (I feel nauseous even typing that), I would think that we should be able to take anything he tweets literally. Third, if we cannot take what he tweets literally, he should stop fucking tweeting until he is able to give his job the sincerity required.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-intel- ... 45924.html

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby Youseff » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:05:34

Maddow getting roasted everywhere. She shouldn't have led with it. She shouldn't have promoted it like she did. Should have had that journalist come in half way or 2/3rds of the way through the show, talked about how it said client copy, talked about how it didn't reveal much.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby Woody » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:06:21

What were the ratings though
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby Youseff » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:12:36

probably super high, but might be one of those things where it hurts her longer term imo
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby azrider » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:16:04

It just seems like everyone is calling everyone a damn nazi who you don't agree with. Both sides do it. Apparently I'm not the only one tired of this...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-39266863

Decent read, especially towards the end.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:18:19

Why not just keep the taxes in the AHCA? I mean besides the obvious answer that their ultra rich lobbyist friends would be angry. People still would have been mad but would have been nice for the GOP if they could say it would save a trillion dollars. Cutting services from the poor and sick is pretty hard to defend. Doing it while the top 1 and 0.1% get a shitload of money is even harder.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:18:32

kruker wrote:Why does this have to be mutually exclusive? Oh, because that's your shtick. Got it.


Of course they aren't mutually exclusive, but yeah, because my "shtick" is staying focused on causal forces, vs residual effects
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:19:33

the best hires:
The White House also named David Malpass, a former official in the Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations, as its nominee for Treasury undersecretary for international affairs, a key economic diplomacy post.

Malpass also served as a former economist at Wall Street bank Bear Stearns prior to its 2008 collapse and most recently served as an economic adviser to Trump's campaign.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:20:33

JUburton wrote:Why not just keep the taxes in the AHCA? I mean besides the obvious answer that their ultra rich lobbyist friends would be angry. People still would have been mad but would have been nice for the GOP if they could say it would save a trillion dollars. Cutting services from the poor and sick is pretty hard to defend. Doing it while the top 1 and 0.1% get a #$!&@ of money is even harder.

yeah, the entire point of cutting the services is so the tax cuts can be enacted
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:21:19

pacino wrote:
JUburton wrote:Why not just keep the taxes in the AHCA? I mean besides the obvious answer that their ultra rich lobbyist friends would be angry. People still would have been mad but would have been nice for the GOP if they could say it would save a trillion dollars. Cutting services from the poor and sick is pretty hard to defend. Doing it while the top 1 and 0.1% get a #$!&@ of money is even harder.

yeah, the entire point of cutting the services is so the tax cuts can be enacted
yeah i suppose that's the cynical and probably correct way to look at it.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 15, 2017 14:31:07

interest rates gonna rise 0.25%. the scam transportation bill that may eventually show up just got a little more expensive.
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