pacino wrote:instead of paying a fine to the IRS you now would essentially pay a fine to a private insurance company for the privilege of re-entering the insurance market. This would probably make it unlikely that healthy people would re-enter it if they lose coverage for more than 2 months.

def one of my favorite parts of the bill. it's not a mandate anymore! if you ever go without for 63 days you'll just have to pay 30% extra...to health insurance companies...for 12 months. a short lapse is more expensive on this than obamacare but a long lapse is obviously cheaper. smart!

JUburton wrote:

pacino wrote:instead of paying a fine to the IRS you now would essentially pay a fine to a private insurance company for the privilege of re-entering the insurance market. This would probably make it unlikely that healthy people would re-enter it if they lose coverage for more than 2 months.

def one of my favorite parts of the bill. it's not a mandate anymore! if you ever go without for 63 days you'll just have to pay 30% extra...to health insurance companies...for 12 months. a short lapse is more expensive on this than obamacare but a long lapse is obviously cheaper. smart!

death spirals are very very serious things we should avoid UNLESS you are able to give more money to insurance companies.

And left-wingers thought the ACA was a giveaway to corps!

This seems important to some members of elected government >> Repeals the 10% tax on indoor tanning services.

Good to see employers will get to drop insurance benefits >> Nullifies the employer mandate — the requirement that larger employers provide qualifying coverage to full-time workers — by reducing the penalty for failing to comply to $0.

Don't need this stuff >> Repeals all appropriations for the Prevention and Public Health Fund, which provides funding to a variety of public health concerns, like Alzheimer’s research, diabetes prevention, heart disease prevention, anti-smoking initiatives, immunization, scientific support for state and local officials to detect and respond to outbreaks, and much more.

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Youseff wrote:Jason Chaffetz: instead of buying an iphone invest in your own healthcare. how does that work? iphone is $700. It once cost me pre-insurance $650 to have part of a toe nail removed, never mind an actual serious procedure.

he's not talking about YOU, he's talking about those people that just buy flashy things and mooch off the rest of us. NOT YOU OR ME!

Youseff wrote:Jason Chaffetz: instead of buying an iphone invest in your own healthcare. how does that work? iphone is $700. It once cost me pre-insurance $650 to have part of a toe nail removed, never mind an actual serious procedure.

dickish for certain. FWIW, access to communications for the poor is critical. When an employer emails or calls... Or if there is an emergency... I don't think we need to make this a discussion of Hero Phones, but basic smart phones are actually rather important.

pacino wrote:

Youseff wrote:Jason Chaffetz: instead of buying an iphone invest in your own healthcare. how does that work? iphone is $700. It once cost me pre-insurance $650 to have part of a toe nail removed, never mind an actual serious procedure.

he's not talking about YOU, he's talking about those people that just buy flashy things and mooch off the rest of us. NOT YOU OR ME!

one time I was in line and a black lady with an iphone and an SUV was using food stamps to buy food

10,000 RTs 21,000 Likes (every conservatives twitter timeline)

meanwhile, in Wikileaks land, they published some CIA info on hacking programs they have. Because of course the CIA has these programs. WHAT A SCOOP

They also cancelled a press conference for Assange because they said his periscope feed is under attack!!!

it is a three part roll out. they have talked about it that way for a long time!

JUburton wrote:

pacino wrote:instead of paying a fine to the IRS you now would essentially pay a fine to a private insurance company for the privilege of re-entering the insurance market. This would probably make it unlikely that healthy people would re-enter it if they lose coverage for more than 2 months.

def one of my favorite parts of the bill. it's not a mandate anymore! if you ever go without for 63 days you'll just have to pay 30% extra...to health insurance companies...for 12 months. a short lapse is more expensive on this than obamacare but a long lapse is obviously cheaper. smart!

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Instead of paying a tax to the government, which is tyranny, you'll pay a penalty to a corp, which is freedom https://t.co/LkS2Fsvpvr

he's stealing my shtick

So Trump's fact about "122 vicious" Gitmo prisoners that re-entered the battlefield. 113 of those released were under GWB, only 9 under Obama. This tweet was (of course) brought on by a Fox & Friends segment/tweet about how a former Gitmo detainee was killed in a Yemen airstrike, and that "at least" 122 former detainees have re-engaged. The segment/tweet did not attribute the number to President Obama, but Trump never lets facts ruin a good narrative!

pacino wrote:this marine scandal is terrible

its so gross and insane that it got so huge before it came to light.

pacino wrote:this marine scandal is terrible

Yea, I just read about that. It's disgusting. The response the Marines United had on Reddit sounded like classic bro-splaining of a Frat incident. I think it's admirable to have support groups to help current and former Marines, but there is a line. This isn't a bunch of alpha males being alpha males, it's sexual harassment.

Here is a refinment on the $500K thing:

Insurance companies could get a big tax break. Obamacare allowed insurance companies to deduct only $500,000 of their executives' pay as a business expense. The GOP bill would repeal that limitation, starting in 2018.

In fact it is actually more horrible then reported here as it is 'all executive pay', and that well will be deep.

thephan wrote:Here is a refinment on the $500K thing:

Insurance companies could get a big tax break. Obamacare allowed insurance companies to deduct only $500,000 of their executives' pay as a business expense. The GOP bill would repeal that limitation, starting in 2018.

In fact it is actually more horrible then reported here as it is 'all executive pay', and that well will be deep.

Don't worry, THIS time it'll trickle down.

The copies of the bill are very active, or they are using a laptop as the web server. I cannot read the text at work, but I cannot even get it to load.

slugsrbad wrote:

thephan wrote:Here is a refinment on the $500K thing:

Insurance companies could get a big tax break. Obamacare allowed insurance companies to deduct only $500,000 of their executives' pay as a business expense. The GOP bill would repeal that limitation, starting in 2018.

In fact it is actually more horrible then reported here as it is 'all executive pay', and that well will be deep.

Don't worry, THIS time it'll trickle down.

i knew it was Trumpcare

all critiques and jokes about the bill are like nourishment to me rn. i cannot wait for paul ryan to eat shit on this.

JUburton wrote:

pacino wrote:this marine scandal is terrible

its so gross and insane that it got so huge before it came to light.

I've found things often get huge before they come to light.