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Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:45:16

pieces like this regarding trans issues won't age well
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:46:20

pacino wrote:Matt Yglesias calls it 'playing president'. Trump wants to play president while Bannon and Priebus be president. That governing stuff is too complicated.


worked for Reagan. Unfortunately for drumpf, his puppetmasters are as 3rd-rate as he is
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Unread postby JUburton » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:48:43

im just really happy to be here with you guys on the day that terrorism ended by calling it radical islamic terrorism.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby drsmooth » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:49:18

Take Sebastian Gorka - our tinpot POTUS has his own tinpot Kissinger type, complete with ridiculous sitcom accent
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:49:26

“This was a mission that was started before I got here. This was something they wanted to do,” Trump said. “They came to me, they explained what they wanted to do ― the generals ― who are very respected, my generals are the most respected that we’ve had in many decades, I believe. And they lost Ryan.”

then exploits a grieving widow later in the day
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:51:14

JUburton wrote:im just really happy to be here with you guys on the day that terrorism ended by calling it radical islamic terrorism.

the secret ISIS plan of relying on what we've been doing for a year plus is a great plan, too. the foolproof plna of not letting them know when we're attacking has been a godsend, except for when it was just put out by Turkey that a run on Raqqa is going to take place very soon.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby thephan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 09:57:15

Everyday there is a new contender as to who will be 'the most damaging'. Are there betting lines?
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:20:48

I just found out that I went to high school with the widow of Ryan Owens. She was two years ahead of me--I only vaguely knew her. She played soccer at UVA too.

That moment already crushed me last night. Having a personal connection makes it even harder to see the stories today.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:49:07

drip:
The former British spy who authored a controversial dossier on behalf of Donald Trump’s political opponents alleging ties between Trump and Russia reached an agreement with the FBI a few weeks before the election for the bureau to pay him to continue his work, according to several people familiar with the arrangement. The agreement to compensate former MI6 agent Christopher Steele came as U.S. intelligence agencies reached a consensus that the Russians had interfered in the presidential election by orchestrating hacks of Democratic Party email accounts. While Trump has derided the dossier as ‘fake news’ compiled by his political opponents, the FBI’s arrangement with Steele shows that the bureau considered him credible and found his information, while unproved, to be worthy of further investigation.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby thephan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:03:23

One thing that did surprise me was the return of 94M people out of work statement. 88.5M indicate that employment is not an option as they are students, stay at home parents, or retired. Maybe the message is that things are going to get so bad that they will all need jobs to cover basic necessities when entitlements disappear and taxes sky rocket. The 94% difference to get to the true number tells a wildly different story, right? Statistical magic to a very small degree but the 6% unemployment number pops right up there (what are we at, like 4.6% corrected?).
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby laf837 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:11:48

I think the point there is that in order to reach their rosy growth projections, and in light of booting immigrants out and limiting immigration in, basically every man, woman, and child needs to be in the workforce.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:16:08

thephan wrote:One thing that did surprise me was the return of 94M people out of work statement. 88.5M indicate that employment is not an option as they are students, stay at home parents, or retired. Maybe the message is that things are going to get so bad that they will all need jobs to cover basic necessities when entitlements disappear and taxes sky rocket. The 94% difference to get to the true number tells a wildly different story, right? Statistical magic to a very small degree but the 6% unemployment number pops right up there (what are we at, like 4.6% corrected?).

If that's the message, it's fundamentally idiotic. That would actually worry me far more than if they were simply lying/spinning, which would simply be politics as usual. The former would demonstrate unprecedented levels of economic incompetence and/or malevolence IMO.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby JUburton » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:24:25

thephan wrote:One thing that did surprise me was the return of 94M people out of work statement. 88.5M indicate that employment is not an option as they are students, stay at home parents, or retired. Maybe the message is that things are going to get so bad that they will all need jobs to cover basic necessities when entitlements disappear and taxes sky rocket. The 94% difference to get to the true number tells a wildly different story, right? Statistical magic to a very small degree but the 6% unemployment number pops right up there (what are we at, like 4.6% corrected?).
it's just a way of saying 'the msm is lying to you with the unemployment rate'. it's technically correct but it's incredibly disingenuous, even for him.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby Soren » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:36:14

pacino wrote:drip:
The former British spy who authored a controversial dossier on behalf of Donald Trump’s political opponents alleging ties between Trump and Russia reached an agreement with the FBI a few weeks before the election for the bureau to pay him to continue his work, according to several people familiar with the arrangement. The agreement to compensate former MI6 agent Christopher Steele came as U.S. intelligence agencies reached a consensus that the Russians had interfered in the presidential election by orchestrating hacks of Democratic Party email accounts. While Trump has derided the dossier as ‘fake news’ compiled by his political opponents, the FBI’s arrangement with Steele shows that the bureau considered him credible and found his information, while unproved, to be worthy of further investigation.


And yet Comey felt the need to leak some more email nonsense.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby thephan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:39:56

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
thephan wrote:One thing that did surprise me was the return of 94M people out of work statement. 88.5M indicate that employment is not an option as they are students, stay at home parents, or retired. Maybe the message is that things are going to get so bad that they will all need jobs to cover basic necessities when entitlements disappear and taxes sky rocket. The 94% difference to get to the true number tells a wildly different story, right? Statistical magic to a very small degree but the 6% unemployment number pops right up there (what are we at, like 4.6% corrected?).

If that's the message, it's fundamentally idiotic. That would actually worry me far more than if they were simply lying/spinning, which would simply be politics as usual. The former would demonstrate unprecedented levels of economic incompetence and/or malevolence IMO.


That is just my own snark as a push back against saying that you 88 year old family member needs to be an FTE somewhere. Maybe in a coal mine because we have the great coal miners, whatever that means**, but was mentioned when he was talking about eliminating 2 regulations for ever new regulation.

** He apparently is having a listening session with coal miners soon. If he listens to the right people, not likely the miners themselves, he might hear that coal is not fixable, however I think he has some deafness.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby pacino » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:40:23

Soren wrote:
pacino wrote:drip:
The former British spy who authored a controversial dossier on behalf of Donald Trump’s political opponents alleging ties between Trump and Russia reached an agreement with the FBI a few weeks before the election for the bureau to pay him to continue his work, according to several people familiar with the arrangement. The agreement to compensate former MI6 agent Christopher Steele came as U.S. intelligence agencies reached a consensus that the Russians had interfered in the presidential election by orchestrating hacks of Democratic Party email accounts. While Trump has derided the dossier as ‘fake news’ compiled by his political opponents, the FBI’s arrangement with Steele shows that the bureau considered him credible and found his information, while unproved, to be worthy of further investigation.


And yet Comey felt the need to leak some more email nonsense.

Comey opened up pandora's box
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:27:41

someone give me some insight to the 4 (?) R house seats that need filled now.

Dems got a shot at any of them? I know Perez has talked a lot about the Georgia one.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby td11 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:33:09

some tiny bit of good news:

@marceelias
BREAKING: Major victory in SCOTUS redistricting case. Court reverses lower court in Bethune-Hill challenging GOP gerrymander in VA.

@PoliticsWolf 1h1 hour ago
SCOTUS reverses lower court ruling that said Virginia's state House of Delegates map isn't a racial gerrymander, remands for reconsideration

@PoliticsWolf
This means Virginia's Republican-drawn state House map will likely be struck down for illegal racial gerrymandering at some future point
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby RichmondPhilsFan » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:45:38

Our House of Delegates map is a fucking joke, but it's definitely not the worst out there.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Unread postby TomatoPie » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:49:14

pacino wrote:Matt Yglesias calls it 'playing president'. Trump wants to play president while Bannon and Priebus be president. That governing stuff is too complicated.


I call it being a stooge.
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