CalvinBall wrote:Posting with my feet up on my sofa too, bitches.

swishnicholson wrote:Kellyanne Conway is 50 years old. If she can still stand up after sitting like that I just say more power to her, or to any of you.

pacino wrote:Trump became his own anonymous senior official on some stories a few idiot reporters wrote.

They're all so stupid.

Youseff wrote:

etched Chaos wrote:Ugh, Youseff I said he's not one of History's greatest monsters, that is reserved for actual monsters, the Lenin's, Stalin's, Polpot's, Hitlers etc etc. I never said he was a decent President or anything, man was an incompetent boob, but he was still better than Drumpf.

Before slugsrbad comes in and thought polices this thread, I'll say lying to get into the Iraq war is the defining foreign policy exercise in America post Vietnam. We're still feeling the repercussions of it and we likely will be for our entire lives. There's no likely exit in the foreseeable future, and the cost to Americans is in the trillions, potentially tens of trillions in the next couple decades. That is money that could be spent on bridges, roads, healthcare and clean drinking water ala Flint. That in itself is disastrous, but the main reason I'd say he's a monster is the cost of human life in the middle east. It's in the low hundreds of thousands by conservative counts, and high hundreds of thousands by other counts. Either number is barbaric, especially when you consider that their murders were a result of blatant lies to the American public and the world at large. There's a very direct path between GW saying God told him to go to war, calling it a crusade, and the deaths of people in the middle east. It's not a circuitous path.

That doesn't even take into consideration the impact that the vacuum created, namely ISIS and all of the horrible repercussions and reverberations that's caused around the world.

CalvinBall wrote:

td11 wrote:

CalvinBall wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:Sorry. Putting your feet on the furniture when you're a guest at a meeting in the Oval Office is a bad action.

Today trump rolled back regulations on clean water. That's important. That's a bad action.

cal, relax man. it's just visually striking and easy to bitch about. i think you know most people here care way more about the issues

I'm relaxed.

Also all the people here would bemoan the right when they harp on things like Obama not saluting or not wearing a flag pin and on and on. Y'all are doing the exact same thing.

jamiethekiller wrote:i don't think i can watch this

pacino wrote:

jamiethekiller wrote:i don't think i can watch this

I'm not. You can read it later if you want.