You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Thread

Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Werthless » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:27:24

momadance wrote:Is this The Onion or real life?

OMG. Like, it doesn't count if 2 aren't taken away? EOs are not meant to be suggestions...

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Youseff » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:28:41

would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:29:57

Youseff wrote:would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.



it has only been 10 days, but yeah. really tough situation though. there really isnt a roadmap for him here that i know of.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby JUburton » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:30:04

Youseff wrote:would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.
I think he will. Not as the face of it but he'll be out there. Dude just got done 8 years of the most stressful job on the planet and needs a little break though.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby drsmooth » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:30:15

jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:not sure you'd wanna be drumpf's 1st SC nominee. They shouldn't waste a lot of time getting fitted for robes in advance of their hearings at any rate

Think unless he pulls a Harriet Miers, whoever he nominates will be confirmed.


the confirmation hearings will be... grimy, maybe more so for drumpf than the judge to be.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:31:02

he technically said it during the campaign
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby The Dude » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:31:38

Obama already said he's ready to get back to work when he's back from vacation. Holder also said Obama will be working on gerrymandering
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:31:50

Youseff wrote:would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.

been feeling the same, but i know he needs (and deserves) time off

hell, where the fuck has hillary been
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:32:29

td11 wrote:
Youseff wrote:would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.

been feeling the same, but i know he needs (and deserves) time off

hell, where the #$!&@ has hillary been

lots of people told her to go away, so she did

she also just lost a grueling campaign
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Soren » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:33:25

this latest EO is fucking insane.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby JUburton » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:33:43

from this, it seems hardiman might not be the worst choice we could hope for

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... eme-court/

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:34:05

pacino wrote:
td11 wrote:
Youseff wrote:would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.

been feeling the same, but i know he needs (and deserves) time off

hell, where the #$!&@ has hillary been

lots of people told her to go away, so she did

she also just lost a grueling campaign


yeah yeah, i know. she deserves time off too.

still, i think it would have been cool for her to not attend the inauguration or show up at one of the women's marches
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:34:20

JUburton wrote:from this, it seems hardiman might not be the worst choice we could hope for

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... eme-court/

pretty much everywhere it's gonna be hot

no pick will be 'good' for liberals
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:34:42

JUburton wrote:from this, it seems hardiman might not be the worst choice we could hope for

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... eme-court/


desperately need to get some socialists on SCOTUS
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:35:40

td11 wrote:
pacino wrote:
td11 wrote:
Youseff wrote:would be nice if Obama stood up and took an active role in the resistance.

been feeling the same, but i know he needs (and deserves) time off

hell, where the #$!&@ has hillary been

lots of people told her to go away, so she did

she also just lost a grueling campaign


yeah yeah, i know. she deserves time off too.

still, i think it would have been cool for her to not attend the inauguration or show up at one of the women's marches

i also think it would've been cool for her to go to a march but it would've then been warped into a 'look at hillary not giving up the election' or 'look at her trying to take credit for the march' etc etc no win situation for her right now. best thing is what she's doing, imo.

she'll do advocacy after this but she's done politically and i would think done making anything 'about her' as far as that goes. i would think she'll stump for the eventual nominee in 2020 in states that would merit it.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:37:26

td11 wrote:
JUburton wrote:from this, it seems hardiman might not be the worst choice we could hope for

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... eme-court/


desperately need to get some socialists on SCOTUS


at a protest i went to during the republican annual retreat some girl got up on a trash can and yelled, "we are the socialist" through a megaphone.

wasnt feeling it tbh.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby JUburton » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:37:38

pacino wrote:
JUburton wrote:from this, it seems hardiman might not be the worst choice we could hope for

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... eme-court/

pretty much everywhere it's gonna be hot

no pick will be 'good' for liberals
well yeah, and we probably should readjust our expectations. not saying dems should just roll over of course.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:38:04

you are definitely right that she is in a lose/lose situation right now, where a certain section of the left will be mad at her no matter what she does.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:38:53

fwiw, 'resistance' takes time. the flood of crap isn't going to be plugged up in a week's time. the courts have to work, activists have to turn action into reclaiming seats of power, etc. it's going to get worse. keeping outrage up is good but 'doing something' is going to be slow and boring. the calls/letters are a great start.

it took 8 years for the Republicans exorcise the Kenyan Usurper but they laid a lot of groundwork inbetween that.


edit: i'm limited but you guys can do whatever you want. run for something! get on your local democratic committee and help steer the conversation. seriously. my wife is now the committee member for our precinct; she replaced NO ONE. lots of people don't even bother.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:41:28

CalvinBall wrote:
td11 wrote:
JUburton wrote:from this, it seems hardiman might not be the worst choice we could hope for

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ho ... eme-court/


desperately need to get some socialists on SCOTUS


at a protest i went to during the republican annual retreat some girl got up on a trash can and yelled, "we are the socialist" through a megaphone.

wasnt feeling it tbh.


I find myself agreeing with a lot of the DSA platform. unfortunately due to how far right the GOP has gone, a strong democratic socialist response is one of our best hopes

i do agree that many of the most prominent socialist/leftist voices on twitter can be abrasive and confrontational. i like the @LarryWebsite guy a lot-- he's a religious leftist, pretty rare combo imo
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