Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Tue Jan 02, 2018 01:49:57

Monkeyboy wrote:was it good?

Very. I could have done with a bit less vinegar, the price I pay sometimes for never measuring anything, but the roast itself was great. Crispy, nicely caramelized outside with the meat so tender I could have sliced it with a spoon. Might be tricky to replicate since again I don't measure. But the ratios worked out to something like 2 parts low sodium soy sauce and 2 parts unsalted chicken stock (for more liquid and in lieu of adding oil), 1 part each of fish sauce, rice wine vinegar, worcestershire sauce, and orange juice, 2 cloves of minced garlic, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/3 cup dark brown sugar, about a teaspoon of 5 spice (which was a little too heavy on the star anise for my taste) and I rubbed the pork with kosher salt and ground pepper before putting it in the ziploc. I let it marinade for about 12 hours and cooked it over a bed of veg which half stewed/half braised in the marinade liquid for 4-1/2 hours at 250F. I think the next time I try it I may swap the OJ out for ginger ale, but there will definitely be a next time.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 18:50:01

well that looks pretty good. Congrats

also, I think it's possible that everyone in the world makes a better roast than me.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Wed Jan 03, 2018 19:31:22

I always thought roasts were the easiest, what problems do you run into?
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 01:05:32

It's probably mostly lack of practice. The things I cook well are the things I've cooked a lot. But for roasts, I don't really know the best cuts to get for different things. It's also always dry. Other than when I make pulled pork, I also have never used any kind of marinade or rub. The pulled pork turns out pretty good, so maybe I'm just bad with beef.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:12:07

For beef, I braise when the cuts are real lean, but usually I just cook it low and slow, 200-250F for several hours to get all the connective tissue broken down. You don't always need fancy rubs or marinades either, just salt and pepper will work fine, especially for flavorful cuts like a chuck roast. I always bring the roast up to room temperature covered on the counter before roasting. And I take it out when it's about 5 degrees under my target internal temperature to let carryover heat finish it off while resting, covered, for a half hour.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:14:14

That's the way to do it. You can finish it for 5-10 mins in a 500+ degree oven after resting to get a nice crust too.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:23:38

Just did this with a bone in pork loin roast I got on clearance at Walmart like 9 months ago and forgot about in the freezer. Used a Montreal chicken grind on thing I got at the supermarket and coated the outside with a bunch of it the put it in the oven at 250 for a few hours until it hit 140, let it rest for about half an hour while I roasted some brussel sprouts and then popped the pork back in on high broil until the outside crisped up. Turned out great.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Phred » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:43:29

A co-worker shot a boar over the break and is bringing me some boar sausage. I've never had it. I assume that I can just grill it like any other sausage.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby smitty » Thu Jan 04, 2018 14:19:39

Cingiale was on a menu when I was in Italy. The waiter had a helluva time trying to tell us what it is. We ordered it anyways. It was pretty good. About a week later we were at an Italian street party. Saw a huge bronze statue of a wild boar. Sure enough, it was a Cingiale. Good times.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby laf837 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 17:57:59

Ive had the wild boar tacos at SPTR. Not that great. cheap tho.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby phatj » Thu Jan 04, 2018 23:46:18

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby lethal » Fri Jan 05, 2018 15:03:12

phatj wrote:Fish sauce is exceptionally vile-smelling. But it's wonderful in Asian sauces and I use it sometimes in non-Asian dishes to add umami.


Just never spill it because that smell will never get out of anything.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby azrider » Wed Jan 10, 2018 17:17:57

I swear I remember someone here saying they got one of those air fryers for Christmas. How is it? It looks like they got good reviews on Amazon but I kind of question those. I also forgot who recommended the pressure cooker, but it's been the number one best kitchen purchase ever.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Wed Jan 10, 2018 17:27:34

I got one!

Used it once. Tried to make sweet potato fries and wings. Have a decent way to go to figuring it out. Cooked the wings well but read that I should coat them in potato starch to crisp them. Will try that next time.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby smitty » Wed Jan 10, 2018 19:21:40

lethal wrote:
phatj wrote:Fish sauce is exceptionally vile-smelling. But it's wonderful in Asian sauces and I use it sometimes in non-Asian dishes to add umami.


Just never spill it because that smell will never get out of anything.


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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Phred » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:05:37

CalvinBall wrote:I got one!

Used it once. Tried to make sweet potato fries and wings. Have a decent way to go to figuring it out. Cooked the wings well but read that I should coat them in potato starch to crisp them. Will try that next time.


You fried wings but they didn't crisp?
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:32:50

Phred wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:I got one!

Used it once. Tried to make sweet potato fries and wings. Have a decent way to go to figuring it out. Cooked the wings well but read that I should coat them in potato starch to crisp them. Will try that next time.


You fried wings but they didn't crisp?


an "air fryer" is essentially a mini convection oven so it will not be as crispy as using oil

aside from frying with oil being a pain in the ass (messy and often expensive if you use peanut oil), an air fryer hasn't appealed to me that much.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Phred » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:03:40

Ahhh...I thought that it used just a small amount of oil and achieved similar results to a regular fryer.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby azrider » Thu Jan 11, 2018 14:24:04

Phred wrote:Ahhh...I thought that it used just a small amount of oil and achieved similar results to a regular fryer.


yeah, I thought you used like a tablespoon or something.

btw calvin, get cookin"!

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Thu Jan 11, 2018 14:34:40

It uses a small amount in that you coat the food in a small amount of oil and then the air fryer rotates hot air around it rather than submerging the food in oil.

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