Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Fri Aug 11, 2017 08:59:40

JUburton wrote:love ribs. we did serious eats' sous vide ones the other week with a homemade sauce and they were delicious. think i prefer dry rubbed tho.


forgot. rubbed these down with a rub i have made up. These didn't come out 'saucy' at all. while they had a suace on 'em, they were more baked into the ribs then just laying in a thick layer on top.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Fri Aug 11, 2017 09:00:09

Made my family's chicken pot pie recipe last night in my giant new pot. Froze 4 large containers after eating like a pig. It's so damn good.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby phatj » Fri Aug 11, 2017 21:21:08

Made a chili-lime pot roast the other day that was really good, served with a tomatillo rice pilaf.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Fri Aug 11, 2017 21:25:06

Cooked my first two Blue Apron meals. Just signed up because my vegetarian son is home for the summer and I had quickly exhausted my unimaginative repertoire.

Pretty good stuff. Could make some quibbles, but it's way better than what I would have come up with myself.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Fri Aug 11, 2017 21:31:01

I've never had any quibbles, let alone vegetarian ones

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby swishnicholson » Fri Aug 11, 2017 21:32:17

Bucky wrote:I've never had any quibbles, let alone vegetarian ones


Yeah, the vegetarian ones are actually called q'uibbles, but I got lazy typing.
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 05, 2017 19:44:32

Anyone grill pizza?

What temp do you do?

Roommate did it tonight. All the bottoms were burned within minutes. He was at 700 on the smoker. I said lower temp would be better. He said no. Higher. Which doesn't make sense to me.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Thu Oct 05, 2017 19:48:04

I’ve heard 500 is about right, but did you use a stone or put it on direct heat?
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 05, 2017 19:58:43

Used a stone yeah. Seems like that was too hot? Homemade dough too.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Thu Oct 05, 2017 20:14:03

Put up the jtk symbol, I know he’s done a lot of brick oven pizza cooking. He can probably give you some insight
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby Bill McNeal » Thu Oct 05, 2017 20:14:39

Oh wait, didn’t realie it was Cal asking. He’ll probably tell you to kick rocks. Sorry bub
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 05, 2017 20:20:40

Jtk and I are irl pals ok

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Thu Oct 05, 2017 21:06:00

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Thu Oct 05, 2017 21:07:39

but really its simple cooking know-how. the higher the temp the thinner the crust. need to make sure there's enough convection around the top of the pizza to cook toppings/cheese. so if you're lifting the lid off your'e going to lose all that convection.

if its a thicker dough then you need a lower temp(500 is good!). you may need to cook the dough first some on the grill then add cheese/toppings then cook it some more as to not burn anything.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Oct 06, 2017 07:22:45

CalvinBall wrote:Anyone grill pizza?

What temp do you do?

Roommate did it tonight. All the bottoms were burned within minutes. He was at 700 on the smoker. I said lower temp would be better. He said no. Higher. Which doesn't make sense to me.



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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Oct 06, 2017 07:24:35

jamiethekiller wrote:but really its simple cooking know-how. the higher the temp the thinner the crust. need to make sure there's enough convection around the top of the pizza to cook toppings/cheese. so if you're lifting the lid off your'e going to lose all that convection.

if its a thicker dough then you need a lower temp(500 is good!). you may need to cook the dough first some on the grill then add cheese/toppings then cook it some more as to not burn anything.


this is basically what I did

cooked one side
flipped and cooked for half the time as the first side

added toppings and lowered heat, closed lid

you can even move off heat if needed
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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:55:05

the dough cooked faster than the toppings though. dont think that would work.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby jamiethekiller » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:01:23

temp was too high for the thickness of dough. neopolitans are cooked at like 800 degrees. and the dough on those are THIN.

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby CalvinBall » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:07:00

idk it was pretty thin. guess he could make it thinner? that would cook the top of the dough faster then too?

just feel like the stone was maybe way too hot regardless of thickness. is there a way to make the stone cooler? i guess not put it on immediately?

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Re: Soups, BBQ, Knives and Pans: The Chef Thread

Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:10:51

in all seriousness, this was the best pizza I've made and the crust was amazing



Ingredients

Dough
3 cups (16 1/2 ounces) King Arthur bread flour
1 tablespoon sugar
¼ teaspoon instant or rapid-rise yeast
1 ¼ cups plus 2 tablespoons ice water (11 ounces)
1 tablespoon vegetable oil, plus extra for counter
1 ½ teaspoons Salt
Sauce
1 (14-ounce) can whole peeled tomatoes, drained with juice reserved
2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil
2 teaspoons minced fresh oregano
½ teaspoon sugar, plus extra for seasoning
Salt
¼ teaspoon red pepper flakes
Pizza
½ cup plus 1 tablespoon extra-virgin olive oil, plus extra for drizzling
3 ounces Parmesan cheese, grated (1 1/2 cups)
8 ounces fresh whole-milk mozzarella cheese, torn into bite-size pieces (2 cups)
3 tablespoons shredded fresh basil
Coarse sea salt

The dough must sit for at least 24 hours before shaping. We prefer the high protein content of King Arthur bread flour for this recipe, though other bread flours are acceptable. For best results, weigh your ingredients. It’s important to use ice water in the dough to prevent it from overheating in the food processor. Grilled pizza cooks quickly, so it’s critical to have all of your ingredients and tools ready ahead of time. We recommend pargrilling, topping, and grilling in quick succession and serving the pizzas one at a time, rather than all at once.

1. FOR THE DOUGH: Process flour, sugar, and yeast in food processor until combined, about 2 seconds. With processor running, slowly add ice water; process until dough is just combined and no dry flour remains, about 10 seconds. Let dough stand for 10 minutes.

2. Add oil and salt to dough and process until dough forms satiny, sticky ball that clears sides of bowl, 30 to 60 seconds. Transfer dough to lightly oiled counter and knead until smooth, about 1 minute. Divide dough into 3 equal pieces (about 91/3 ounces each). Shape each piece into tight ball, transfer to well-oiled baking sheet (alternatively, place dough balls in individual well-oiled bowls), and coat top of each ball lightly with oil. Cover tightly with plastic wrap (taking care not to compress dough) and refrigerate for at least 24 hours or up to 3 days.

3. FOR THE SAUCE: Pulse tomatoes in food processor until finely chopped, 12 to 15 pulses. Transfer to medium bowl and stir in reserved juice, oil, oregano, sugar, 1/2 teaspoon salt, and pepper flakes. Season with extra sugar and salt to taste, cover, and refrigerate until ready to use.

4. One hour before cooking pizza, remove dough from refrigerator and let stand at room temperature.

5A. FOR A CHARCOAL GRILL: Open bottom vent halfway. Light large chimney starter three-quarters filled with charcoal briquettes (4½ quarts). When top coals are partially covered with ash, pour into ring around perimeter of grill, leaving 8-inch clearing in center. Set cooking grate in place, cover, and open lid vent halfway. Heat grill until hot, about 5 minutes.

5B. FOR A GAS GRILL: Turn all burners to high, cover, and heat grill until hot, about 15 minutes. Leave all burners on high.

6. While grill is heating, transfer sauce to small saucepan and bring to simmer over medium heat. Cover and keep warm.

7. FOR THE PIZZA: Clean and oil cooking grate. Pour ¼ cup oil onto center of rimmed baking sheet. Transfer 1 dough round to sheet and coat both sides of dough with oil. Using your fingertips and palms, gently press and stretch dough toward edges of sheet to form rough 16 by 12-inch oval of even thickness. Using both your hands, lift dough and carefully transfer to grill. (When transferring dough from sheet to grill, it will droop slightly to form half-moon or snowshoe shape.) Cook (over clearing if using charcoal; covered if using gas) until grill marks form, 2 to 3 minutes. Using tongs and spatula, carefully peel dough from grate, then rotate dough 90 degrees and continue to cook (covered if using gas) until second set of grill marks appears, 2 to 3 minutes longer. Flip dough and cook (covered if using gas) until second side of dough is lightly charred in spots, 2 to 3 minutes. Using tongs or pizza peel, transfer crust to cutting board, inverting so side that was grilled first is facing down. Repeat with remaining 2 dough rounds, adding 1 tablespoon oil to sheet for each round and keeping grill cover closed when not in use to retain heat.

8. Drizzle top of 1 crust with 1 tablespoon oil. Sprinkle one-third of Parmesan evenly over surface. Arrange one-third of mozzarella pieces, evenly spaced, on surface of pizza. Dollop one-third of sauce in evenly spaced 1-tablespoon mounds over surface of pizza. Using pizza peel or overturned rimmed baking sheet, transfer pizza to grill*; cover and cook until bottom is well browned and mozzarella is melted, 3 to 5 minutes, checking bottom and turning frequently to prevent burning. Transfer pizza to cutting board, sprinkle with 1 tablespoon basil, drizzle lightly with extra oil, and season with salt to taste. Cut into wedges and serve. Repeat with remaining 2 crusts.


*note this is where I put it off heat instead (turned off the one set of burners) and left it in slightly longer
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