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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 00:56:31

The China CRISPR baby was announced yesterday, but it hasn't yet been verified. the scientist is in trouble for it. He said he was doing it to cure HIV/AIDS. I think the baby is supposed to be immune or something. I wonder how they'll check that.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Nov 28, 2018 01:05:04

Warszawa wrote:
joboggi wrote:The next big things in science

1. Unlimited power from Nuclear fusion. Now that they have super computers and supercoducting magnets they JUST produced a commercial level of power, for about 30 seconds in Germany.

Think the sun in a big crock pot.

Really.

ETA 10-20 years MAny think the group in Vancouver will win this race.

2. Desktop Quantum computing.

This is too freaky to believe so read about it. Especially the Australian effort, which is ahead in some ways.

ETA 10 years

3. Crispr revolution.

You can take out any gene you want if you know how, and then fix it, or delete it or what have you. WOW. China CRISPR babies, human one, will be announced this year or next. Dozens of them.

Really

4. Ultra Ultra fast Internet via starlink.

Elon will be lifting the entire star system of small satellites with the Starship huge rocket ship. When I designed something like this just after the Columbia disaster, the NASA engineers said, no one will want that rocket.

aha.

5. Ford and GM have gone electric, although apparantly they have not committed to doing away with their trucks, yet.

The electric car is only being sold well by Tesla. Jaguar may have hit a home run. Porche will obviously bring it in. Rivian may well sell many of the players the chassis/drivetrain/suspension. Who is Rivian.

6. Along with Crispr the designer drug tsunami will cure all cancer and AD within 30 years.

7. That means we will all be posting here in the year 2060.


8. Climate change - by 2100 everyone’s life is going to be #$!&@


The move to electric cars and fusion will mitigate the climate changes. Then we will suck up CO2 and bury it, like they are doing in Europe. Just another employment project. Full employment act, climate change remediation.

And yep, the Crispr babies were announced. lions and tigers and bears.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby phatj » Wed Nov 28, 2018 23:11:23

Warszawa wrote:8. Climate change - by 2100 everyone’s life is going to be shit

When/if fusion ever gets off the ground (it's been 20 years away for the last 50 years or so) it will become feasible to remove C02 from the atmosphere on a scale to match global emissions, which would rapidly dwindle anyway as fusion generation replaces fossil fuels.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Thu Nov 29, 2018 00:52:44

recent prices

wind 2 cents a KW
Solar 3 cents a KW.

CO2 peaked in 2005.

All in all, the MAJOR move by TESLA to change the automobile and truck market is working there. Without fusion, we will be OK, once we start sequestering CO2 on a large scale.

WE will have to sequestor CO2.

Fusion will be part of the answer, no doubt. We can do it without fusion.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Thu Nov 29, 2018 00:56:36

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/s ... cheap.html

https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2018/11/t ... space.html

Check out the COST of lofting Musk's starlink internet data service.

Starlink will make Google and Musk a trillion dollars.

Then plug in the cost of sending up say 20 GTO satellites at a time, and you have a cornered market for satellite launches in a few years, except for military and vanity projects the BFR ( I like that name better) will be the answer.

They did whisper a change in materials, It is either graphite or aluminum for the BFR. Graphite cannot hold oxygen, the oxygen degrades the graphite leading to a leak, of an enormous size.

oh.

I was wondering when they were dispensing with the graphite propellant tanks.

They have not announced it yet, but I think that will be the announcement.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby phatj » Thu Nov 29, 2018 22:46:45

joboggi wrote:recent prices

wind 2 cents a KW
Solar 3 cents a KW.

CO2 peaked in 2005.

All in all, the MAJOR move by TESLA to change the automobile and truck market is working there. Without fusion, we will be OK, once we start sequestering CO2 on a large scale.

WE will have to sequestor CO2.

Fusion will be part of the answer, no doubt. We can do it without fusion.

Source on CO2 peaking in 2005? That's contrary to everything I've seen.

As to whether we can remove CO2 from the atmosphere without fusion (and without fossil fuels, obviously), of course we can. But at what scale? I don't know what the power requirements for large scale carbon removal would be but I imagine they would be considerable.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Thu Nov 29, 2018 22:56:31

someone should tell cheetoh that the fizzy stuff in soda is co2

hilarity ensues

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Dec 05, 2018 17:31:26

Just after finishing the reentry burn stage 1 of a new falcon 9 began losing it's attitude, first spinning one way and then another.

Cheers went up as the first stage landed in the water and not the landing zone at Cape Canaveral.

Not sure why they cheered, except apparently it landed and did not crash

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Stay_Disappointed » Wed Dec 05, 2018 19:04:48

phatj wrote:
joboggi wrote:recent prices

wind 2 cents a KW
Solar 3 cents a KW.

CO2 peaked in 2005.

All in all, the MAJOR move by TESLA to change the automobile and truck market is working there. Without fusion, we will be OK, once we start sequestering CO2 on a large scale.

WE will have to sequestor CO2.

Fusion will be part of the answer, no doubt. We can do it without fusion.

Source on CO2 peaking in 2005? That's contrary to everything I've seen.

As to whether we can remove CO2 from the atmosphere without fusion (and without fossil fuels, obviously), of course we can. But at what scale? I don't know what the power requirements for large scale carbon removal would be but I imagine they would be considerable.



Are we going to have fusion powered cars? Airplanes?

Also livestock contributes about 20% to total emissions

Oh and Pakistan will run out of water in 2025 so they better hurry
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Wed Dec 05, 2018 19:13:28

14.5% for livestock at last count, but still

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Dec 05, 2018 19:40:59

US CO2 is going down.

Not worldwide CO2.

THE technology exists to remove ourselves from burning dead things to power our lives

Harvard is launching a particate experiment that will mimic volcanic winter.

Mount Pinatubo cooled the entire earth one degree C for two years.

Other nations are currently storing CO2.

IT will work out.

In other news, the Falcon 9 titanium Finn malfunctioned just before landing.

They will be adding redundancy to what was deemed a non mission critical issue.

You don't have to recover the first stage.

On video the first stage lands perfectly, in the water, before tipping over.

It missed the shallows by THAT MUCH, apparently.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Dec 05, 2018 19:42:46

Warszawa wrote:
phatj wrote:
joboggi wrote:recent prices

wind 2 cents a KW
Solar 3 cents a KW.

CO2 peaked in 2005.

All in all, the MAJOR move by TESLA to change the automobile and truck market is working there. Without fusion, we will be OK, once we start sequestering CO2 on a large scale.

WE will have to sequestor CO2.

Fusion will be part of the answer, no doubt. We can do it without fusion.

Source on CO2 peaking in 2005? That's contrary to everything I've seen.

As to whether we can remove CO2 from the atmosphere without fusion (and without fossil fuels, obviously), of course we can. But at what scale? I don't know what the power requirements for large scale carbon removal would be but I imagine they would be considerable.



Are we going to have fusion powered cars? Airplanes?

Also livestock contributes about 20% to total emissions

Oh and Pakistan will run out of water in 2025 so they better hurry


Source Google us co2 emissisions. The graph will come up in ten or more different reports.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Dec 05, 2018 19:43:35

OH

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Dec 05, 2018 20:53:49

There is no US CO2 increase. It stopped going up in 2005.

Soon you will see an abrupt downturn in the emission level.

2020 is the year multiple vehicle companies go electric.

I would say five years after that the curve will trend more negatively.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby joboggi » Wed Dec 05, 2018 21:09:12

Translated, I will let you know when my memory is slipping. Until then challenge my memory at your own risk.

Every once in awhile I wonder, because frankly it should start slipping at some point.

Still making vivid pictures at 61.

Oh.

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Wed Dec 05, 2018 22:07:00

you have faith that U.S. CO2 will continue decrease as all the regulations are ripped down??

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby phatj » Wed Dec 05, 2018 22:58:48

It's great that US carbon emissions are down and may continue to decrease but hardly relevant in terms of global climate change when global emissions continue to increase (and more to the point, C02 concentrations in the atmosphere continue to increase). The US remains the 2nd largest carbon emitter in the world, ~1.5 times as great as the entire EU.

"It will work out" is frankly not very reassuring.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Woody » Thu Dec 06, 2018 00:38:24

Whatever happened with the ozone layer
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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