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Unread postby Woody » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:14:19

are you saying fracking is like the earth's way of cracking one off
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Unread postby WheelsFellOff » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:15:18

No, it's our way of giving the earth a pity handy. #BigBlueBall
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby td11 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:32:24

fracking encourages the earth to let off tiny lil farts so that it won't do a diarrhea geyser (volcano) on unsuspecting midwesterners 50 years down the line
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Unread postby td11 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:32:39

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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby pacino » Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:45:51

SK790 wrote:Man Not Made For Space: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/28/scien ... space.html

Dr. Charles said he thought NASA could already send astronauts to Mars and bring them back alive. But given the huge expense of such a mission, he said it was crucial that the astronauts arrived productive and in great health.
“My goal,” he said, “is to see a program that doesn’t deliver an astronaut limping to Mars.”
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Unread postby Bucky » Sat Feb 22, 2014 00:21:57

well at least we won't have to worry about them hiring away the phillies' trainers

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Unread postby Bucky » Tue Mar 18, 2014 07:36:07

OK, here's info about all the peer-reviewed journal stuff that SK talked about earlier:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z35/ ... ting-2.jpg


They also mention and link The Petition Project, the one where all the "scientists" sign off that there is no man-made global warming. It mentions the credentials of those who sign.

The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,715 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.


Basic Science? Good enough to be considered an expert in climate change! I'm tempted to see if they would allow me to be added to the list...

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Unread postby SK790 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 07:45:30

you can have a BS in anything from food science to psychology and sign that.

2. Computer and mathematical sciences includes 935 scientists trained in computer and mathematical methods. Since the human-caused global warming hypothesis rests entirely upon mathematical computer projections and not upon experimental observations, these sciences are especially important in evaluating this hypothesis.

3. Physics and aerospace sciences include 5,812 scientists trained in the fundamental physical and molecular properties of gases, liquids, and solids, which are essential to understanding the physical properties of the atmosphere and Earth.

4. Chemistry includes 4,822 scientists trained in the molecular interactions and behaviors of the substances of which the atmosphere and Earth are composed.

5. Biology and agriculture includes 2,965 scientists trained in the functional and environmental requirements of living things on the Earth.

6. Medicine includes 3,046 scientists trained in the functional and environmental requirements of human beings on the Earth.

7. Engineering and general science includes 10,102 scientists trained primarily in the many engineering specialties required to maintain modern civilization and the prosperity required for all human actions, including environmental programs.
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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Tue Mar 18, 2014 07:53:58

environmental scientists - zero
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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Mar 18, 2014 09:40:04

so someone has found hard proof that the big bang happened and the universe rapidly expanded/inflated from a miniscule part

http://www.space.com/25078-universe-inf ... overy.html
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Unread postby Bucky » Tue Mar 18, 2014 09:46:11

damn. deserves it own thread IMO. :lol:

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Unread postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Mar 18, 2014 09:47:50

I thought the cosmic inflation thread was about the Carter administration
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Mar 18, 2014 09:48:46

:lol: :lol: :lol:

(that's was along the lines of what I thought at first too) :oops:

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Unread postby TenuredVulture » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:10:51

Bucky wrote:OK, here's info about all the peer-reviewed journal stuff that SK talked about earlier:

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z35/ ... ting-2.jpg


They also mention and link The Petition Project, the one where all the "scientists" sign off that there is no man-made global warming. It mentions the credentials of those who sign.

The current list of petition signers includes 9,029 PhD; 7,157 MS; 2,586 MD and DVM; and 12,715 BS or equivalent academic degrees. Most of the MD and DVM signers also have underlying degrees in basic science.


Basic Science? Good enough to be considered an expert in climate change! I'm tempted to see if they would allow me to be added to the list...


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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Tue Mar 18, 2014 15:05:35

guys, i think i'm going to school to get a postgrad in computational mathematics. Stanford, to be specific.


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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Wed Mar 19, 2014 20:11:32

http://www.iflscience.com/technology/st ... s-go-green

A group of researchers at FermentAlg, led by Pierre Calleja, have invented a street lamp that is powered by algae. Yes, algae; those tiny microorganisms responsible for that green sludge you might find on your pond. This streetlamp exploits the process of photosynthesis that these algae carry out. Photosynthesis is the system used by certain organisms to convert light energy (from the sun) into chemical energy (sugars) that can be used as fuel, using carbon dioxide amongst other things. These lamps can store the energy produced by these algae during the hours in which the sun shines, generating a super green and environmentally friendly lamp.
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Unread postby phatj » Wed Mar 19, 2014 22:07:06

Wouldn't that CO2 just go back into the atmosphere when you turn on the lamp?
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Unread postby Bill McNeal » Wed Mar 19, 2014 22:54:54

No, the photosynthesis converts the co2 into oxygen.
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Unread postby Monkeyboy » Thu Mar 20, 2014 04:59:07

Some of it would go to oxygen and some of it to the biomass of algae. I would need to know how it works to say more. If the biomass is then burned to release the energy, then some of that would be released as CO2, some of which may be reused by the algae.

This is just the beginning of this stuff and it does worry me a bit. Algae is seen by some people as a way to make fuels. The idea is to have huge algae farms that grow the algae and then process it as a lipid oil biofuel. It is then put in your car or whatever in the same way as fuel made from corn is used. It does little to help the environment because it releases CO2 and it keeps us from developing energy sources that aren't oil based. It does burn cleaner than fossil fuel, but that isn't saying much. But hey, at least the auto manufacturers and energy companies won't be hurt by having to adjust and compete with real alternative energy.
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Re: Rolling Science and Nature Thread

Unread postby phatj » Thu Mar 20, 2014 06:17:39

Monkeyboy wrote:Some of it would go to oxygen and some of it to the biomass of algae. I would need to know how it works to say more. If the biomass is then burned to release the energy, then some of that would be released as CO2, some of which may be reused by the algae.

This is what I mean. Yeah, you can use photosynthesis to store the sun's energy, in the form of carbohydrates, which extracts CO2 from and releases O2 to the atmosphere, but then what? If you want to use the energy, you pretty much have to "burn" the carbs, whether by literal combustion or some sort of catalytic reaction. Either way, you're going to extract O2 and release CO2, so you're back where you started. There is no free lunch.

Monkeyboy wrote:This is just the beginning of this stuff and it does worry me a bit. Algae is seen by some people as a way to make fuels. The idea is to have huge algae farms that grow the algae and then process it as a lipid oil biofuel. It is then put in your car or whatever in the same way as fuel made from corn is used. It does little to help the environment because it releases CO2 and it keeps us from developing energy sources that aren't oil based. It does burn cleaner than fossil fuel, but that isn't saying much. But hey, at least the auto manufacturers and energy companies won't be hurt by having to adjust and compete with real alternative energy.

I don't know, I think this has promise. It's at least a closed cycle, unlike fossil fuels.
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