"Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Ace Rothstein » Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:34:08

I always thought Bonilla was a bum on the Mets, but he was actually pretty good, but yeah LULZ METS

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Jul 01, 2020 13:20:43

Ace Rothstein wrote:I always thought Bonilla was a bum on the Mets, but he was actually pretty good, but yeah LULZ METS


Well, he definitely sucked the second time around with them, which is when the payout was negotiated.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby MoBettle » Wed Jul 01, 2020 13:26:47

I know it supposedly makes financial sense for them but you figure it would be worth it for the Mets to just settle this with a lump payment so people don't have an annual reason to roast them for decades.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed Jul 01, 2020 13:37:57

Didn't really know about these other guys

https://abc7ny.com/sports/its-bobby-bon ... 1/6287835/
How rare is this arrangement?

Bonilla last played for the Mets in 1999 and last played in the majors for the Cardinals in 2001, but he will be paid through 2035 (when he'll be 72).

Here are some other notable deferred-money contracts:

Bobby Bonilla (again): A second deferred-contract plan with the Mets and Orioles pays him $500,000 a year for 25 years. Those payments began in 2004.

Bret Saberhagen: Saberhagen will receive $250,000 a year from the Mets for 25 years (payments also began in 2004; this was the inspiration for Bonilla's deal).

Max Scherzer: Will receive $105 million total from the Nationals that will be paid out through 2028.

Manny Ramírez: Will collect $24.2 million total from the Red Sox through 2026.

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jul 01, 2020 13:40:53

heyeaglefn wrote:Didn't really know about these other guys

https://abc7ny.com/sports/its-bobby-bon ... 1/6287835/
How rare is this arrangement?

Bonilla last played for the Mets in 1999 and last played in the majors for the Cardinals in 2001, but he will be paid through 2035 (when he'll be 72).

Here are some other notable deferred-money contracts:

Bobby Bonilla (again): A second deferred-contract plan with the Mets and Orioles pays him $500,000 a year for 25 years. Those payments began in 2004.

Bret Saberhagen: Saberhagen will receive $250,000 a year from the Mets for 25 years (payments also began in 2004; this was the inspiration for Bonilla's deal).

Max Scherzer: Will receive $105 million total from the Nationals that will be paid out through 2028.

Manny Ramírez: Will collect $24.2 million total from the Red Sox through 2026.



The nationals have a lot of these deals. I feel like they could set themselves up for some cash crunches in the late 20s since they aren’t even a max payroll team now when all of the deferrals kick in.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby bleh » Wed Jul 01, 2020 13:43:59

MoBettle wrote:I know it supposedly makes financial sense for them but you figure it would be worth it for the Mets to just settle this with a lump payment so people don't have an annual reason to roast them for decades.

You can't buy this kind of publicity if you're Bobby Bonilla though. He has a day named after him. He might want to keep it going.

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jul 01, 2020 13:46:09

. After all, next season, the Nationals are paying Joe Blanton, who pitched for the team in 2017, $2 million next year. There is also another $2 million due to Rafael Soriano, who last pitched for the Nationals in 2014, and who will be paid that amount through 2022. It is just their business model.

This deferral of financial obligations has continued. Max Scherzer is receiving $15 million deferred beginning in 2022, after his seven year deal with Washington is over. Stephen Strasburg will be getting $10 million in deferred money after his extension expires, beginning in 2024. Newly signed pitcher Patrick Corbin is also in on the deferred money bandwagon, with his six year, $140 million contract slated to have deferred money as well.

In addition to those contracts, the Nationals have other players receiving future paydays without actually playing for the team at the time. Players like Daniel Murphy and Matt Wieters also have their own deferred payouts coming up, beginning this upcoming season. In fact, since 2017, the Nationals, without counting in Corbin’s contract, have deferred $196 million in salary.


This is from 2018. They also note that starting in 2025 the Nats are paying $25m/yr to Sherzer and Strasbourg alone and then they have deferred money to Corbin too.

https://calltothepen.com/2018/12/05/was ... come-2025/
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby momadance » Wed Jul 01, 2020 14:19:03

The Cincinnati Reds pay Griffey $3.6 million a year until 2024.

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Jul 01, 2020 14:26:46

So Corbin’s contract is backloaded and deferred, so in 2024 Corbin gets $35m so the nats will be paying $25m Strasbourg and Shurzer to not pitch for them on top of Corbin’s money. Then in 2025 they’ll be paying A combined $35m to 3 pitcher not on the roster anymore.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Slowhand » Wed Jul 01, 2020 14:27:11

momadance wrote:The Cincinnati Reds pay Griffey $3.6 million a year until 2024.


Probably a bit easier to accept paying one of the greatest ever than Bobby Bo.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 01, 2020 14:41:26

Don't know if '93 happens but the rumored 5/25 for Bobby Bo woulda been a good get for the Phillies.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Uncle Milty » Wed Jul 01, 2020 14:42:23

I knew the Saberhagen one and the recent Nats contracts. Totally forgot about Griffey.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby ReadingPhilly » Wed Jul 01, 2020 14:43:23

Uncle Milty wrote:Don't know if '93 happens but the rumored 5/25 for Bobby Bo woulda been a good get for the Phillies.


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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Stripes » Wed Jul 01, 2020 15:46:38

Bill McNeal wrote:So Corbin’s contract is backloaded and deferred, so in 2024 Corbin gets $35m so the nats will be paying $25m Strasbourg and Shurzer to not pitch for them on top of Corbin’s money. Then in 2025 they’ll be paying A combined $35m to 3 pitcher not on the roster anymore.


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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Stripes » Wed Jul 01, 2020 15:47:50

Bill McNeal wrote:
. After all, next season, the Nationals are paying Joe Blanton, who pitched for the team in 2017, $2 million next year. There is also another $2 million due to Rafael Soriano, who last pitched for the Nationals in 2014, and who will be paid that amount through 2022. It is just their business model.

This deferral of financial obligations has continued. Max Scherzer is receiving $15 million deferred beginning in 2022, after his seven year deal with Washington is over. Stephen Strasburg will be getting $10 million in deferred money after his extension expires, beginning in 2024. Newly signed pitcher Patrick Corbin is also in on the deferred money bandwagon, with his six year, $140 million contract slated to have deferred money as well.

In addition to those contracts, the Nationals have other players receiving future paydays without actually playing for the team at the time. Players like Daniel Murphy and Matt Wieters also have their own deferred payouts coming up, beginning this upcoming season. In fact, since 2017, the Nationals, without counting in Corbin’s contract, have deferred $196 million in salary.


This is from 2018. They also note that starting in 2025 the Nats are paying $25m/yr to Sherzer and Strasbourg alone and then they have deferred money to Corbin too.

https://calltothepen.com/2018/12/05/was ... come-2025/


And they were gonna defer a good chunk of Harper's money, too, in the offer they supposedly made him.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby Swiggers » Wed Jul 01, 2020 22:14:21

The Wilpons loved these deals because they had the "guaranteed" 11% returns from Bernie Madoff every year. Lollerz.
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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 17:39:27

Looks like MLB is scheduling Yankees @ Mets on September 11, 2021, the 20th anniversary of 9/11

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby BigEd76 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 19:35:27

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby BigEd76 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 20:11:51

Frazier goes second deck off Porcello. Fake crowd noise groaned

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Re: "Don't Mets Up a Good Thing": Discuss the METS

Postby ek20 » Sun Aug 02, 2020 13:31:58

Cespedes is MIA apparently
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