2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 16, 2014 23:44:44

They are HORRIBLE drawings

I mean look at all the people in the seats

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:12:10

Braves fans apparently just randomly raise their arms to the sky.

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:38:28

BigEd76 wrote:The new Barves stadium will be called SunTrust Park

new renderings


I went to Turner Field when I visited my brother in Atlanta this summer. Nice field, everything in good shape, had no trouble parking. Hope they enjoy the congestion out in the burbs, and the Braves can look with pride at the hole they've created in the middle of downtown. Though, being Atlanta, neither of these will be anything new.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby WheelsFellOff » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:42:06

Plus the batter's eye looks terrible (not Stanton's)
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Barry Jive » Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:53:40

man I fucking hate the Braves
no offense but you are everything that's wrong with America

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:09:35

Polar Bear Phan wrote:Braves fans apparently just randomly raise their arms to the sky.


They're trying to do a wave. Those bastards

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby CFP » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:16:55

Looks like a pretty awful stadium TBH

Wish them all the worst

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Slowhand » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:24:38

Too lazy to look for the reason myself, but why the heck are they building a new stadium? Turner Field isn't that old.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:30:47

apparently the maintenance cost for Turner is expensive and needed, and in the long run a new stadium would be cheaper. Also transportation issues, also fuck them.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:31:10

Slowhand wrote:Too lazy to look for the reason myself, but why the heck are they building a new stadium? Turner Field isn't that old.


Check out the controversies surrounding the Atlanta Hawks and connect the dots.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby BigEd76 » Wed Sep 17, 2014 13:09:17

The stadium was built for the '96 Olympics and was modified to handle baseball, and the lease runs out in 2016. Schuerholz said it would take $150M for maintenance and $200M to improve the fan experience. They also did studies that said most of the Barves fans don't live near the stadium, the nearest train station is 3/4 mile away, car traffic is awful, and they can't control the supporting stuff (restaurants, hotels, bars, etc.) surrounding the area, so they're putting a new park close to I-75/I-285 in what they claim is the center of the fan base. The new place is gonna have 8,000 less seats so it won't look as empty, and it's gonna have less parking onsite but they'll be able to use adjacent parking lots and shuttles, so the 6,000 onsite parking spots will actually be 30,000 within a 2-mile radius

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Sep 17, 2014 13:23:33

So a train station .75 of a mile away is too far, but parking spots 2 miles away are a good thing. Oooooookay then.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby bleh » Wed Sep 17, 2014 13:32:15

Additionally, the mixed-use development will fundamentally change many of our fans’ game day behaviors. Some will be interested in shopping and dining before the game, while others may stay later after the final out is recorded.

in other words you might have to wait 3 hours for an available shuttle to take you to your car in the next county

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Grotewold » Wed Sep 17, 2014 13:32:23

Well it isn't the Dan Uggla fiasco

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Sep 17, 2014 13:34:30

BigEd76 wrote:The stadium was built for the '96 Olympics and was modified to handle baseball, and the lease runs out in 2016. Schuerholz said it would take $150M for maintenance and $200M to improve the fan experience. They also did studies that said most of the Barves fans don't live near the stadium, the nearest train station is 3/4 mile away, car traffic is awful, and they can't control the supporting stuff (restaurants, hotels, bars, etc.) surrounding the area, so they're putting a new park close to I-75/I-285 in what they claim is the center of the fan base. The new place is gonna have 8,000 less seats so it won't look as empty, and it's gonna have less parking onsite but they'll be able to use adjacent parking lots and shuttles, so the 6,000 onsite parking spots will actually be 30,000 within a 2-mile radius


Some of that is true, but a lot of it is rationalization. The main thing is that the stadium and surrounding area will be controlled by the Braves rather than being simply tenants, even though much of the money is coming from public sources. In other words, they can make a lot more money in a stadium of their own. Which is of course their right, but it doesn't mean the whole thing can't seem distasteful. One thing Cobb County had to guarantee to residents in order to win approval was that an extension of the public rail system would NOT be created to reach the stadium. Certainly don't want any of those city residents showing up to darken their doors.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 17, 2014 14:05:00

slugsrbad wrote:apparently the maintenance cost for Turner is expensive and needed, and in the long run a new stadium would be cheaper. Also transportation issues, also #$!&@ them.

this creates far more transport issues than staying at Turner or rehabbing it.

they got free money from the public to go and build a fancy new stadium which they will own and charge higher prices for, and put further away from the center of the city. great plan.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Sep 17, 2014 14:06:26

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:apparently the maintenance cost for Turner is expensive and needed, and in the long run a new stadium would be cheaper. Also transportation issues, also #$!&@ them.

this creates far more transport issues than staying at Turner or rehabbing it.
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 17, 2014 14:07:06

swishnicholson wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:The stadium was built for the '96 Olympics and was modified to handle baseball, and the lease runs out in 2016. Schuerholz said it would take $150M for maintenance and $200M to improve the fan experience. They also did studies that said most of the Barves fans don't live near the stadium, the nearest train station is 3/4 mile away, car traffic is awful, and they can't control the supporting stuff (restaurants, hotels, bars, etc.) surrounding the area, so they're putting a new park close to I-75/I-285 in what they claim is the center of the fan base. The new place is gonna have 8,000 less seats so it won't look as empty, and it's gonna have less parking onsite but they'll be able to use adjacent parking lots and shuttles, so the 6,000 onsite parking spots will actually be 30,000 within a 2-mile radius


Some of that is true, but a lot of it is rationalization. The main thing is that the stadium and surrounding area will be controlled by the Braves rather than being simply tenants, even though much of the money is coming from public sources. In other words, they can make a lot more money in a stadium of their own. Which is of course their right, but it doesn't mean the whole thing can't seem distasteful. One thing Cobb County had to guarantee to residents in order to win approval was that an extension of the public rail system would NOT be created to reach the stadium. Certainly don't want any of those city residents showing up to darken their doors.

I hear they could scare someone. Atlanta has a huge scary person problem.

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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Barry Jive » Wed Sep 17, 2014 15:04:53

they also rushed the legislation through with a rigged town hall meeting, and Schierholtz admitted the plan might have failed without those tactics
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Re: 2014 Thread for Random Stuff About Baseball

Postby Roger Dorn » Wed Sep 17, 2014 19:36:08

I hate the South and their lack of transportation infrastructure, same goes for all the other sunbelt "cities." They aren't real cities so fuck them. It also makes me appreciate Septa a lot more.
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