Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby mcare89 » Fri May 10, 2013 17:39:39

This is a move that I am so heavily in favor of that I'm amazed they actually did it.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Barry Jive » Fri May 10, 2013 17:45:46

I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby mcare89 » Fri May 10, 2013 17:54:51

Barry Jive wrote:I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in

It's such a dramatic shift from the Collins regime that the possibilities are endless.

Two things come to mind immediately though, given the Rockets general philosophy.

1) Draft day might actually be exciting.
2) They're gonna try to keep Bynum.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Fri May 10, 2013 18:08:10

Like the move hope they drop Bynum off the continental shelf.
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby PTOITWCFTPP » Fri May 10, 2013 18:15:25

Is he bringing Harden with him?
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby TheFrank » Fri May 10, 2013 18:26:10

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Napalm » Fri May 10, 2013 18:27:03

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Is he bringing Harden with him?

just his laptop and a calculator

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby td11 » Fri May 10, 2013 18:34:09

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby CalvinBall » Fri May 10, 2013 18:35:24

What's great about the Rockets is they are a solid team that has a ton of flexibility cap wise. I like that part more than I like the commitment to advanced stats, which I love. Exciting hire.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby ReadingPhilly » Fri May 10, 2013 18:56:41

mcare89 wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in

It's such a dramatic shift from the Collins regime that the possibilities are endless.

Two things come to mind immediately though, given the Rockets general philosophy.

1) Draft day might actually be exciting.
2) They're gonna try to keep Bynum.


might've learned his lesson on flakes (ie royce white)

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby joe table » Fri May 10, 2013 19:52:20

what's the square root of this apartment

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby mcare89 » Fri May 10, 2013 20:12:24

ReadingPhilly wrote:
mcare89 wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in

It's such a dramatic shift from the Collins regime that the possibilities are endless.

Two things come to mind immediately though, given the Rockets general philosophy.

1) Draft day might actually be exciting.
2) They're gonna try to keep Bynum.


might've learned his lesson on flakes (ie royce white)

The Rockets have been trying to acquire a big-time center forever. Hell, it wouldn't shock me if they went after Bynum this season.

An impact center who can score is the most efficient player on a basketball court. Takes lots of close shots, draws fouls, gets to the line. Now, obviously, there's a lot of factors that go into Bynum, but barring somebody throwing a long-term max deal at him, I think they'll do anything within reason to keep him. I really do.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby danrosz » Fri May 10, 2013 20:12:46

mcare89 wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in

It's such a dramatic shift from the Collins regime that the possibilities are endless.

Two things come to mind immediately though, given the Rockets general philosophy.

1) Draft day might actually be exciting.
2) They're gonna try to keep Bynum.


Why do you think they're going to try to keep Bynum?

Has gone out of his way in interviews to indicate that he likes to scout guys himself to see how they interact with teammates and the crowd... Values personality. Possible but I don't think this ensures Bynum is back.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby mcare89 » Fri May 10, 2013 20:48:13

danrosz wrote:
mcare89 wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in

It's such a dramatic shift from the Collins regime that the possibilities are endless.

Two things come to mind immediately though, given the Rockets general philosophy.

1) Draft day might actually be exciting.
2) They're gonna try to keep Bynum.


Why do you think they're going to try to keep Bynum?

Has gone out of his way in interviews to indicate that he likes to scout guys himself to see how they interact with teammates and the crowd... Values personality. Possible but I don't think this ensures Bynum is back.

I'm sure he's scouted Andrew Bynum plenty. I've never gotten the impression that teammates had any problem with Bynum, other than Kobe, who hates everyone. Even this year, all the guys were saying they just wanted him to get healthy. Nobody ripped him, not even the loose cannons.

I don't think it ensures anything. I said they're going to try to keep him because the Rockets, my frame of reference for his body of work, have been trying to acquire a franchise center forever. They traded for Gasol before Stern vetoed the deal. Like I said, a center who can score inside is such an efficient commodity that I would be surprised if a guy so heavy into analytical data could just wave goodbye to that kind of potential. Obviously if the cost becomes prohibitive, that's a different story.

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby danrosz » Sat May 11, 2013 05:00:40

mcare89 wrote:
danrosz wrote:
mcare89 wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:I'm really more fired up about this than I was for Chip (who was my favorite choice for the Eagles) or really anything since the new ownership came in

It's such a dramatic shift from the Collins regime that the possibilities are endless.

Two things come to mind immediately though, given the Rockets general philosophy.

1) Draft day might actually be exciting.
2) They're gonna try to keep Bynum.


Why do you think they're going to try to keep Bynum?

Has gone out of his way in interviews to indicate that he likes to scout guys himself to see how they interact with teammates and the crowd... Values personality. Possible but I don't think this ensures Bynum is back.

I'm sure he's scouted Andrew Bynum plenty. I've never gotten the impression that teammates had any problem with Bynum, other than Kobe, who hates everyone. Even this year, all the guys were saying they just wanted him to get healthy. Nobody ripped him, not even the loose cannons.

I don't think it ensures anything. I said they're going to try to keep him because the Rockets, my frame of reference for his body of work, have been trying to acquire a franchise center forever. They traded for Gasol before Stern vetoed the deal. Like I said, a center who can score inside is such an efficient commodity that I would be surprised if a guy so heavy into analytical data could just wave goodbye to that kind of potential. Obviously if the cost becomes prohibitive, that's a different story.


From our new GM in an interview a few years back. I just don't see Bynum as a lock.

"“If you look at our roster, we have a bunch of guys who have a lot of winning characteristics and we have a bunch of guys who have won a lot. Those aren'’t always correlated. Like a lot of teams, we believe in guys who have winning characteristics; guys who care about winning, are competitive and want to play, practice and get better –- guys who don’t want to take plays off and do want to consistently help their teammates by doing the little things that every coach in basketball wants their team to do like sliding over and taking a charge, making the extra pass, getting out and running in transition even if you'’re not the one who gets to score, making the right defensive rotation, and just sort of consistently following our gameplan.

“"Those things are all important to us and the problem is they'’re not often well-measured. But I will say, in aggregate, they'’re all measured and they’'re all measured by watching how much they win. How much they win titles, games, quarters, matchups. While we'’re working hard to measure many of those little things that coaches have forever wanted to have on their teams, you can always measure them in aggregate. So by measuring them in aggregate, with enough patterns and over enough time, you can grow confident that the winning of a player like Shane Battier - who won a national championship in college and state championships in high school - or the winning of a player like Luis Scola - who won at many levels of international basketball - will continue. The same holds true for many of the players on our roster.

“"Now if that was your sole focus when acquiring talent, you could really make big mistakes. That said, if that winning background exists in combination with some of the other things you'’re looking for in a player, I think that'’s a really powerful marker, and it'’s something we'’ve used in the past."

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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby phillychuck » Sat May 11, 2013 07:19:28

Trent Steele wrote:Any chance he could also gm for the baseball squad?


If the Sixers are successful, maybe the Phils' ownership will see the light and finally move into the 21st Century...like when they were right on the cutting edge of signing the first black players. :wink:

Unfortunately, the Phils seem to be the last ones that catch onto any significant, beneficial, new idea.
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby JFLNYC » Sat May 11, 2013 08:53:44

I dunno. Rube seems to have tapped the market inefficiency of hitters who are undervalued because they suck.
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby pacino » Sat May 11, 2013 09:15:22

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how you think his post up game is?
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby pacino » Sat May 11, 2013 09:17:10

the value of a quality center is immense. for bynum, what the things we as fans dont know, but the sixers front office is going to have to know is how dedicated he is and how he will recover from this injury. in babyface we trust
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Re: Sixers 2013 Off-Season Thread, Vol 1: AD

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Sat May 11, 2013 09:19:36

The problem is that Bynum is not a quality center because he can't even get onto the court.

Next please.

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