Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (politics)

Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:49:53

JUburton wrote:i feel like the 'stop and frisk might potentially have some good outcomes' argument is difficult to defend when, even if it does, it does so by trampling on the constitutional/civil rights of a specific subset of people that have been shit on for hundreds of years in this country.


It's the balance between security and freedom. Usually the choice between how much freedom one gives up for the sake of security involves balancing one's own freedom versus one's own security. The problem with stop and frisk in the way it's implemented is it's easy for a prominent white guy like Trump who will never get stopped and frisked to enhance his own security while compromising the freedoms of those "others."
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:05:21

All the good public polls are showing a mid single digit lead opening up for Clinton nationally, while decent state polling is showing Trump improving in key battleground states

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:49:23

Woody wrote:Yeah you started frisking and she was like, "STOP."

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:51:30

Yeah, it's weird. Ohio and Florida in particular when to shit for HRC after looking so positive after the convention. The bad news for Trump (and good for HRC) is Trump could take OH, FL & NC and still not get 270. He's got to peel off a state like PA or MI which looks pretty solidly Dem right now. And, of course, OH and FL are still so close that one or both could go for HRC, which would seal Trump's fate.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:51:56

Could be she's picking up people in states that are out of the battleground.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby JUburton » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:55:42

If she holds CO/MI/WI/PA/NH which are all relatively solid (though not a lot of polling in some), she wins the election. It's not a huge margin for error though.

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby Woody » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:55:46

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:00:14

JUburton wrote:If she holds CO/MI/WI/PA/NH which are all relatively solid (though not a lot of polling in some), she wins the election. It's not a huge margin for error though.


Yeah, RCP with no toss ups now has it 272-266 Clinton. That's pretty damn scary. It means Trump doesn't need another big state like PA or MI. If he could somehow get NH, NM, HI, RI, CT or MD he'd win. As you pointed out, they all look solidly Dem right now, but 272-266 is downright scary, not only because of the numbers themselves, but because of what it would mean in terms of the response by Trump and his supporters to such a close loss.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:00:59

This is probably the most annoying way to gain in the national polls.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:33:32

Cincinnati Enquirer endorsed Clinton today. First Democrat they endorsed since FDR.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:40:17

Pistachio Girl is a huge Trump fan.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby CalvinBall » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:41:54

pacino wrote:Pistachio Girl is a huge Trump fan.


huge whack job too

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby Youseff » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:42:44

JFLNYC wrote:
JUburton wrote:If she holds CO/MI/WI/PA/NH which are all relatively solid (though not a lot of polling in some), she wins the election. It's not a huge margin for error though.


Yeah, RCP with no toss ups now has it 272-266 Clinton. That's pretty damn scary. It means Trump doesn't need another big state like PA or MI. If he could somehow get NH, NM, HI, RI, CT or MD he'd win. As you pointed out, they all look solidly Dem right now, but 272-266 is downright scary, not only because of the numbers themselves, but because of what it would mean in terms of the response by Trump and his supporters to such a close loss.


that close is 100% going to the courts.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby pacino » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:43:29

CalvinBall wrote:
pacino wrote:Pistachio Girl is a huge Trump fan.


huge whack job too

Globalists Clinton and Obama are working with the Muslim Brotherhood to bring Sharia law to the US.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby MoBettle » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:52:11

Youseff wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
JUburton wrote:If she holds CO/MI/WI/PA/NH which are all relatively solid (though not a lot of polling in some), she wins the election. It's not a huge margin for error though.


Yeah, RCP with no toss ups now has it 272-266 Clinton. That's pretty damn scary. It means Trump doesn't need another big state like PA or MI. If he could somehow get NH, NM, HI, RI, CT or MD he'd win. As you pointed out, they all look solidly Dem right now, but 272-266 is downright scary, not only because of the numbers themselves, but because of what it would mean in terms of the response by Trump and his supporters to such a close loss.


that close is 100% going to the courts.


If you think congress got nothing done during obamas terms wait until you see the crap the GOP pulls during 4-8 years under Clinton.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby Youseff » Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:59:36

MoBettle wrote:
Youseff wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
JUburton wrote:If she holds CO/MI/WI/PA/NH which are all relatively solid (though not a lot of polling in some), she wins the election. It's not a huge margin for error though.


Yeah, RCP with no toss ups now has it 272-266 Clinton. That's pretty damn scary. It means Trump doesn't need another big state like PA or MI. If he could somehow get NH, NM, HI, RI, CT or MD he'd win. As you pointed out, they all look solidly Dem right now, but 272-266 is downright scary, not only because of the numbers themselves, but because of what it would mean in terms of the response by Trump and his supporters to such a close loss.


that close is 100% going to the courts.


If you think congress got nothing done during obamas terms wait until you see the crap the GOP pulls during 4-8 years under Clinton.


what are the big legislative accomplishments of the GOP over the last 20 years or so? not a rhetorical question, just wondering what that party does other than play victims all the time.
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby Soren » Fri Sep 23, 2016 13:01:47

Youseff wrote:
MoBettle wrote:
Youseff wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
JUburton wrote:If she holds CO/MI/WI/PA/NH which are all relatively solid (though not a lot of polling in some), she wins the election. It's not a huge margin for error though.


Yeah, RCP with no toss ups now has it 272-266 Clinton. That's pretty damn scary. It means Trump doesn't need another big state like PA or MI. If he could somehow get NH, NM, HI, RI, CT or MD he'd win. As you pointed out, they all look solidly Dem right now, but 272-266 is downright scary, not only because of the numbers themselves, but because of what it would mean in terms of the response by Trump and his supporters to such a close loss.


that close is 100% going to the courts.


If you think congress got nothing done during obamas terms wait until you see the crap the GOP pulls during 4-8 years under Clinton.


what are the big legislative accomplishments of the GOP over the last 20 years or so? not a rhetorical question, just wondering what that party does other than play victims all the time.


No Child Left Behind, Patriot Act, Bush's energy bill in 2005
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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Sep 23, 2016 13:04:37

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Re: Hillary's collasping in the polls and the streets (polit

Postby drsmooth » Fri Sep 23, 2016 13:04:55

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