19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!)

Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby pacino » Tue Jun 09, 2015 09:46:35

Santorum was on FOX News and was mad about the 10 person limit for their Presidential debate. his reasoning was that he was at 4% in Iowa at this time last time when he came back and won Iowa (but did he? that's another story) so he should be in on this. He also said that it was arbitrary. It appears 538 agrees with him on that. they're keeping their rules close to the vest, so no one really knows who will and won't be allowed. what is SERIOUS contender? who knows?!

i think Santorum is largely right about the debate; the FOX News debate is crucial for a guy like him. To be kept out because of rules he doesn't even know about seems unfair. I guess it's their network, but they shouldn't keep trotting out the idea that they're a news network if they keep doing this stuff that's obviously designed to get who they want on the screen.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby traderdave » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:53:47

For a country that advertises itself as a "democracy", there sure are a lot of limitations either already imposed or trying to be imposed regarding elections.

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Tue Jun 09, 2015 13:03:09

Kansas is getting pretty darn close to becoming a dictatorship
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby SK790 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 13:08:39

traderdave wrote:For a country that advertises itself as a "democracy", there sure are a lot of limitations either already imposed or trying to be imposed regarding elections.

What we really need is more restrictions on voters, tho!
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby drsmooth » Tue Jun 09, 2015 14:31:15

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Kansas is getting pretty darn close to becoming a dictatorship


one weird damn place
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Jun 10, 2015 05:29:53

TomatoPie wrote:- what is the argument against a union of three people?

Like I want to be yelled at in stereo.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby pacino » Wed Jun 10, 2015 08:56:39

spirit of hte law is for chumps:
In upholding the Texas law, the Fifth Circuit relied heavily on a rather cramped reading of Planned Parenthood v. Casey, the 1992 decision which held that the right to have an abortion is a component of the "liberty" protected by the Fourteenth Amendment. Casey declared that no state may place an "undue burden" on a woman seeking to exercise that right. The Fifth Circuit held that forcing some women to travel nearly 150 miles to obtain an abortion "is not an undue burden under Casey." Further, the court found that the regulations—which include exacting standards for doorways and ventilation systems—were "reasonably related to maternal health." Thus, the law did not violate women's constitutional rights.

Notably, the court exempted a clinic in McAllen from the new restrictions. The court explained that, if the McAllen clinic closed, women in the Rio Grande Valley may have to travel 235 miles to obtain an abortion—and that nearby hospitals appeared to deny McAllen doctors admitting privileges specifically to prevent them from being legally qualified to perform abortions. However, the court was not so kind to women in El Paso. Under the new law, these women will have to travel 550 miles to the nearest Texas abortion clinic. The court's advice to them? Get your abortion in New Mexico.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby pacino » Wed Jun 10, 2015 09:02:40

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:One supporter shows up at Santorum campaign stop

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/r ... 18774.html

Santorum told the Register that the low turnout was not surprising, but that it is all a part of the plan.




the plan being to get sympathy votes

Santorum settled on the tenderloin with a side of onion rings. By the time they showed up, three more Iowans had entered the restaurant and found their way to his table.

He compared the stop to the film "Caucus," the 2013 documentary that chronicled Santorum's sometimes quirky encounters with Iowans in intimate settings ahead of his win.

"This is what I did a lot of" in the film, he said. "I met with small groups of people, and I ate in front of the camera."

One newcomer, Glen Meyers, a minister from nearby Exira, asked Santorum for his thoughts on same-sex marriage. Santorum called it a threat not just to family but religious liberty

"This is where the left is saying, 'Here is what your belief system should be, and anyone who does not toe the line, you're a hater, you're a bigot, you're intolerant and you will not be tolerated,'" Santorum said.

The pastor seemed pleased with the response: "That was pretty good."

Later, after posing for a couple of photos and shaking hands, Santorum stood outside the diner and called the event a success.

"People don't understand. One guy in there said, 'I'll speak for you at the caucus,'" Santorum said. "That's maybe eight votes that you wouldn't otherwise get. Eight votes can make a big difference, as I know."

he's kind of right...it depends on what people show up because caucuses are crazy
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:02:58

Phan In Phlorida wrote:
TomatoPie wrote:- what is the argument against a union of three people?

Like I want to be yelled at in stereo.


Agree 100%, but will that stand up in court?
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby pacino » Wed Jun 10, 2015 10:30:23

spot the issue:

Six million people risk losing their health care subsidies, yet @POTUS continues to deny that Obamacare is bad for the American people.

— Senator John Thune (@SenJohnThune) June 8, 2015
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby Soren » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:15:38

pacino wrote:spot the issue:

Six million people risk losing their health care subsidies, yet @POTUS continues to deny that Obamacare is bad for the American people.

— Senator John Thune (@SenJohnThune) June 8, 2015


uh aren't people going to lose their subsidies because the GOP is doing everything it can to dismantle the ACA?
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:04:24

Sounds like Christie is going to run, he is completely delusional. This administration is ending up as big an embarrassment as Corzine's was.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby Swiggers » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:26:19

The difference is that Corzine was a shitshow from the get go, whereas Christie managed not to be a shitshow for long enough to get a second term.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby TomatoPie » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:55:06

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Sounds like Christie is going to run, he is completely delusional. This administration is ending up as big an embarrassment as Corzine's was.


In fact, that Cowboy-loving Turd belongs in the Precipitous Declines thread.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby pacino » Wed Jun 10, 2015 13:28:25

Andrew Cuomo looks like Colombo [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3114585/A-homicidal-torturer-cop-killer-loosed-Victim-s-family-residents-tiny-prison-town-living-fear-Gov-Cuomo-retraces-route-unprecedented-jail-break.html]when he toured [/img]the NY State prison where the breakout occurred
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby pacino » Wed Jun 10, 2015 14:46:45

military escalation in Iraq...a new Ameircan base in ISIS-held territory, 450 more advisors (and thus more security) and theyll craft the plan to retake Ramadi.

Sure glad we're there!
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Jun 10, 2015 17:57:01

NPR host to Bernie: You're a big Israeli Jewy McJew
Bernie: What? I'm American.
Host: You're on the list on Facebook. Sorry if I got that wrong. Are there other Israelis in Congress?
Bernie: What

Her apology is terrible: "On today’s show I made a mistake. Rather than asking Senator and Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders whether he had dual U.S./Israeli citizenship, as I had read in a comment on Facebook, I stated it as fact. He corrected me, saying he did not know where the question came from. I apologized immediately," Rehm said. "I want to apologize as well to all our listeners for having made an erroneous statement. I am sorry for the mistake. However, I am glad to play a role in putting this rumor to rest."

Stating random Facebook comments as fact on a national show when the information refuting it is available, then hinting at some weird cabal of Israeli-American lawmakers doesn't put rumors to rest. Asking about some random, plainly false Facebook comment also would have been dumb and needlessly given oxygen to the story.

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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby swishnicholson » Wed Jun 10, 2015 18:07:13

jerseyhoya wrote:NPR host to Bernie: You're a big Israeli Jewy McJew
Bernie: What? I'm American.
Host: You're on the list on Facebook. Sorry if I got that wrong. Are there other Israelis in Congress?
Bernie: What

Her apology is terrible: "On today’s show I made a mistake. Rather than asking Senator and Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders whether he had dual U.S./Israeli citizenship, as I had read in a comment on Facebook, I stated it as fact. He corrected me, saying he did not know where the question came from. I apologized immediately," Rehm said. "I want to apologize as well to all our listeners for having made an erroneous statement. I am sorry for the mistake. However, I am glad to play a role in putting this rumor to rest."

Stating random Facebook comments as fact on a national show when the information refuting it is available, then hinting at some weird cabal of Israeli-American lawmakers doesn't put rumors to rest. Asking about some random, plainly false Facebook comment also would have been dumb and needlessly given oxygen to the story.


That's pretty despicable.

I was not previously familiar with Diane Rehm. She's old.
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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Jun 10, 2015 20:32:18

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Sounds like Christie is going to run


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Re: 19 Republican primary candidates and counting (politics!

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Jun 10, 2015 20:42:11

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Sounds like Christie is going to run

Hope it's not across the George Washington Bridge or they'll /really/ need to close the lane for repairs.
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