"Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby Gimpy » Thu Apr 23, 2015 00:10:33

Image

I bet that shot didn't fall. #fake3pointgame

Gimpy
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 15670
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2011 19:11:47

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Apr 23, 2015 00:40:34

Beyond mines in Kazakhstan that are among the most lucrative in the world, the sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States. Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies. Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock.

At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation as Russians Pressed for Control of Uranium Company

#readyforhillary

jerseyhoya
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 97408
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 21:56:17

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Apr 23, 2015 01:23:54

For three years in a row beginning in 2010, the Clinton Foundation reported to the IRS that it received zero in funds from foreign and U.S. governments, a dramatic fall-off from the tens of millions of dollars in foreign government contributions reported in preceding years.

Those entries were errors, according to the foundation: several foreign governments continued to give tens of millions of dollars toward the foundation's work on climate change and economic development through this three-year period. Those governments were identified on the foundation's annually updated donor list, along with broad indications of how much each had cumulatively given since they began donating.

Exclusive: Clinton charities will refile tax returns, audit for other errors

AYFKM?

jerseyhoya
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 97408
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 21:56:17

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby ashton » Thu Apr 23, 2015 04:43:07

When Republicans were asked about U.S.–Israel relations, 30 percent favored this statement: “Israel is an ally but we should pursue America’s interests when we disagree with them.” Sixty-seven percent supported this option instead: “Israel is an important ally, the only democracy in the region, and we should support it even if our interests diverge.”

When Republicans are asked to pick from a range of guiding principles, almost as many choose Israeli interests as U.S. interests. Most Republicans, in the absence of a two-state solution, prefer Israeli control of Palestinians, through occupation or annexation, to a single integrated country with equal rights. Thirty-seven percent of Republicans consider Israel one of their top five issues ... by a wide margin, this segment of the GOP cares more about Israeli interests than about American interests, human rights, or any other principle.


link

ashton
There's Our Old Friend
There's Our Old Friend
 
Posts: 2147
Joined: Mon Jan 01, 2007 23:14:06

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Apr 23, 2015 06:55:33

Kill the chicken to scare the monkey

TomatoPie
Dropped Anchor
Dropped Anchor
 
Posts: 5184
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 22:18:10
Location: Delaware Valley

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 23, 2015 07:41:31

“Israel is an important ally, the only democracy in the region, and we should support it even if our interests diverge.”

huh

Thirty-seven percent of Republicans consider Israel one of their top five issues ... by a wide margin, this segment of the GOP cares more about Israeli interests than about American interests, human rights, or any other principle.

ohhhhhhhh, because of the end times. this support is only because so the end times are ensured and Israelis will finally recognize Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior when he saves them from the antichrist. netanyahu knows people believe this and uses it to his advantage.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

pacino
Moderator / BSG MVP
Moderator / BSG MVP
 
Posts: 75831
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 18:37:20
Location: Furkin Good

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby Bucky » Thu Apr 23, 2015 07:44:01

pacino wrote:
“Israel is an important ally, the only democracy in the region, and we should support it even if our interests diverge.”

huh



a/k/a "this is the opposite choice of what obama what pick"

Bucky
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 58018
Joined: Fri Dec 29, 2006 19:24:05
Location: You_Still_Have_To_Visit_Us

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby Gimpy » Thu Apr 23, 2015 08:02:06



I didn't like that article. It's loaded with conjecture and pretty light on examples of why the "problem" is actually a problem. The concern at the end (about King v. Burwell, which is expected to pull six SC votes upholding the ACA, and same-sex marriage laws, which Scalia has pointed out that the Court seems to have made the way they'll vote pretty clear through past decisions) was entirely baseless in my opinion.

Gimpy
Space Cadet
Space Cadet
 
Posts: 15670
Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2011 19:11:47

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Apr 23, 2015 09:25:13

jerseyhoya wrote:
For three years in a row beginning in 2010, the Clinton Foundation reported to the IRS that it received zero in funds from foreign and U.S. governments, a dramatic fall-off from the tens of millions of dollars in foreign government contributions reported in preceding years.

Those entries were errors, according to the foundation: several foreign governments continued to give tens of millions of dollars toward the foundation's work on climate change and economic development through this three-year period. Those governments were identified on the foundation's annually updated donor list, along with broad indications of how much each had cumulatively given since they began donating.

Exclusive: Clinton charities will refile tax returns, audit for other errors

AYFKM?



So is this a real issue or one made to look that way by the GOP propaganda machine? I can't tell the difference anymore. Benghazi was supposed to be the smoking gun that brought her down, but even the GOP controlled investigations in the House and elsewhere agreed that it was nothing. It didn't stop you from posting about it and it certainly didn't stop Fox and the GOP attack dogs from continuing to say stuff that their own investigations proved to be incorrect, but that's a side point. I personally don't really want Clinton to be the nominee, partly because I don't like her corporate/banking politics and partly because I don't want to listen to this nonsense (if it is nonsense -- again, I can't tell anymore).

If I'm any indication, and I may not be, the GOP hopes may hinge on what % of the population has completely turned them off when it comes to these "controversies." I have no idea if it's true or if she did nothing wrong, and I have no desire to spend time reading a bunch of stuff that may just be about nothing, so my default position is to ignore it and assume it's made up nonsense.I wonder how many others will feel the same way, especially about Clinton.

I think there's a story about a boy crying about a wolf that might be more informative than my story, but you get the gist.
Agnostic dyslexic insomniacs lay awake all night wondering if there is a Dog.

Monkeyboy
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 28452
Joined: Sat Feb 17, 2007 21:01:51
Location: Beijing

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby momadance » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:08:01

US Drone strike in Parkistan took out an American and Italian hostage held by Al Qaeda. Good job.

momadance
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 25967
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 17:52:34
Location: Quarantine Beach

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:27:26

Monkeyboy wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
For three years in a row beginning in 2010, the Clinton Foundation reported to the IRS that it received zero in funds from foreign and U.S. governments, a dramatic fall-off from the tens of millions of dollars in foreign government contributions reported in preceding years.

Those entries were errors, according to the foundation: several foreign governments continued to give tens of millions of dollars toward the foundation's work on climate change and economic development through this three-year period. Those governments were identified on the foundation's annually updated donor list, along with broad indications of how much each had cumulatively given since they began donating.

Exclusive: Clinton charities will refile tax returns, audit for other errors

AYFKM?



So is this a real issue or one made to look that way by the GOP propaganda machine? I can't tell the difference anymore. Benghazi was supposed to be the smoking gun that brought her down, but even the GOP controlled investigations in the House and elsewhere agreed that it was nothing. It didn't stop you from posting about it and it certainly didn't stop Fox and the GOP attack dogs from continuing to say stuff that their own investigations proved to be incorrect, but that's a side point. I personally don't really want Clinton to be the nominee, partly because I don't like her corporate/banking politics and partly because I don't want to listen to this nonsense (if it is nonsense -- again, I can't tell anymore).

If I'm any indication, and I may not be, the GOP hopes may hinge on what % of the population has completely turned them off when it comes to these "controversies." I have no idea if it's true or if she did nothing wrong, and I have no desire to spend time reading a bunch of stuff that may just be about nothing, so my default position is to ignore it and assume it's made up nonsense.I wonder how many others will feel the same way, especially about Clinton.

I think there's a story about a boy crying about a wolf that might be more informative than my story, but you get the gist.


Hot take: (am I doing this correctly?) The basic argument in favor of HRC's somewhat checkered past was there couldn't be anything new. Now there is. The HRC haters won't care about this except as confirmation of their existing beliefs, the Ready for Hillary folks will just see this as yet another example of how women are put down or whatever. The key problem here as I see it is the large number of folks, moderates and the left, who have been at best lukewarm about Hillary will see this as another reason to hope someone else enters the Democratic primary.
Be Bold!

TenuredVulture
You've Got to Be Kidding Me!
You've Got to Be Kidding Me!
 
Posts: 53243
Joined: Thu Jan 04, 2007 00:16:10
Location: Magnolia, AR

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:34:16

TPP is gettin' fast-tracked. Can't trust Obama with any power EXCEPT TRADE DEALS!!!! Passed 13-7


Have to admit, the only person being consistent here is Obama but it seems unnecessarily secretive.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

pacino
Moderator / BSG MVP
Moderator / BSG MVP
 
Posts: 75831
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 18:37:20
Location: Furkin Good

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:32:29

gee I wonder if businesses get the better end of this over the middle class
FTN wrote: im a dick towards everyone, you're not special.

The Crimson Cyclone
Dropped Anchor
Dropped Anchor
 
Posts: 9372
Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2009 07:48:14

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:40:30

I'll care about clinton cash just as soon as those who do crucify Cheney for his Halliburton looting and Bushco for their Saudi romances

in other words I won't care

(also would prefer another nominee but YOLO)
Yes, but in a double utley you can put your utley on top they other guy's utley, and you're the winner. (Swish)

drsmooth
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 47349
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 19:24:48
Location: Low station

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby SK790 » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:44:41

i care, but it's hilarious when the right attacks democrats who do this as if they aren't all backed by the Kochs or some sort of other gross entity. reminds me of scott walker saying how unfair it was the democrats brought in out of state money in his recall election, but took, what was it?, 5-10 times as much from out of state donors.
I like teh waether

SK790
Plays the Game the Right Way
Plays the Game the Right Way
 
Posts: 33040
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 23:12:01
Location: time is money; money is power; power is pizza; pizza is knowledge

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:46:47

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:gee I wonder if businesses get the better end of this over the middle class

who knows

i guess we'll eventually get to find out. i dont even know if i should be for or against it, but i'm against the process. the nuke talks seem more out in the open.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

pacino
Moderator / BSG MVP
Moderator / BSG MVP
 
Posts: 75831
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 18:37:20
Location: Furkin Good

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:47:51

Monkeyboy wrote: Benghazi was supposed to be the smoking gun that brought her down, but even the GOP controlled investigations in the House and elsewhere agreed that it was nothing.


oh heavens, the Benghazi investigations aren't over. oh my no
Yes, but in a double utley you can put your utley on top they other guy's utley, and you're the winner. (Swish)

drsmooth
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 47349
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 19:24:48
Location: Low station

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:49:13

findings to be released at a more politically expedient juncture to whip up base
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

pacino
Moderator / BSG MVP
Moderator / BSG MVP
 
Posts: 75831
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 18:37:20
Location: Furkin Good

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:22:13

pacino wrote:TPP is gettin' fast-tracked. Can't trust Obama with any power EXCEPT TRADE DEALS!!!! Passed 13-7

Have to admit, the only person being consistent here is Obama but it seems unnecessarily secretive.

Why aren't the Republicans being consistent?

jerseyhoya
BSG MVP
BSG MVP
 
Posts: 97408
Joined: Fri Sep 07, 2007 21:56:17

Re: "Let them eat gay cake" (Politics thread)

Postby TomatoPie » Thu Apr 23, 2015 14:33:04

Image

Given the dooshturds that the GOP is likely to offer up, I am actually likely to vote for Hillary. Never thought I would say that
Kill the chicken to scare the monkey

TomatoPie
Dropped Anchor
Dropped Anchor
 
Posts: 5184
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 22:18:10
Location: Delaware Valley

PreviousNext