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Postby Bucky » Wed Dec 17, 2014 21:24:56

she'd have an excellent chance at whinnying

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 18, 2014 08:48:58

ridiculous sentence:
Republicans and Democrats are calling on Del. Joseph D. Morrissey (D-Henrico) to resign from the Virginia House of Delegates after his conviction Friday on a charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Morrissey was given a 12-month jail sentence with six months suspended in a case stemming from his connection with a 17-year-old female receptionist.

The terms of his sentence allow Morrissey to continue to serve in the General Assembly while incarcerated. But Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) and the leader of the House Democratic Caucus are urging him not to come back in light of his conviction on what a spokesman for the governor called “disturbing charges.”
Morrissey entered an Alford plea to one misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Alford pleas allow the accused to maintain innocence but acknowledge that there is enough evidence for a conviction.

Prosecutors had accused him of having sex with the receptionist who worked at his law firm and of possessing child pornography — allegedly a photo of the teenager. Morrissey and the girl have both said their cellphones were hacked and incriminating text messages planted by a third party. Their relationship was not sexual, Morrissey has said.


“This is a very troubling case,” House Minority Leader David J. Toscano (D-Charlottesville) said in a statement Saturday, “and disqualifies him from serving in the House.” Toscano added that “we are actively exploring all available options, including removal, if he does not [resign].”

Senate Democrats also called for Morrissey to go.

“Virginians expect and deserve representatives whose conduct — especially towards children — is above reproach,” said Minority Leader Richard L. Saslaw (Fairfax).

The chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, Pat Mullins, likewise called for Morrissey’s resignation, calling him “a disgrace not only to himself, but to the Commonwealth of Virginia.”

he's now found God and is refusing to resign. jesus christ, what an asshole and a criminal piece of crap. and only the powerful get a damn sentence like that.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 18, 2014 08:52:30

both sides are full of pigs:
Texas GOP Rep. Blake Farenthold is being sued by his former spokeswoman over allegations of gender discrimination and that he created a hostile work environment and improperly fired her after she complained.

Lauren Greene, Farenthold’s communications director until July, claims another Farenthold aide said the lawmaker had “sexual fantasies” and “wet dreams” about Greene.


“Farenthold regularly drank to excess, and because of his tendency to flirt, the staffers who accompanied him to Capitol Hill functions would joke that they had to be on ‘red head patrol to keep him out of trouble,’” Greene’s complaint alleges. “On one occasion, prior to February 2014, during a staff meeting at which [Greene] was in attendance, Farenthold disclosed that a female lobbyist had propositioned him for a ‘threesome.’”

According to Greene, Bob Haueter, Farenthold’s chief of staff, “belittled” her and shut her out of senior staff meetings.

“On June 10, 2014, in response to Haueter’s complaint about [Greene’s] shirt … which Haueter claimed was transparent and showed [Greene’s] nipples, Farenthold told [another woman staffer] that [Greene] could show her nipples whenever she wanted to,” Greene’s complaint asserts.

Greene said Farenthold avoided meeting one-on-one with her, and she also felt awkward about meeting with Farenthold.

When Greene complained to Farenthold directly in June about her problems with Haueter, she was “marginalized and undermined” by the Texas Republican, and then fired several weeks later, Greene said.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby pacino » Thu Dec 18, 2014 08:55:36

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Dec 18, 2014 09:14:47

FTN wrote: im a dick towards everyone, you're not special.

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby The Nightman Cometh » Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:30:32

How many times is Mitt Romney going to run for president? I can't believ it, but it seems like this is happening again.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby pacino » Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:28:13

Bill O'Reilly declared victory in his imaginary War on Christmas. The segment must've been written by Colbert.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby SK790 » Sat Dec 20, 2014 23:55:25

Glad that drug addict could defeat the evil of Christmas.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Dec 20, 2014 23:56:56

I don't think Bill O'Reilly is a drug addict

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby drsmooth » Sun Dec 21, 2014 00:14:48

might as well face it, he's addicted - to plugs....
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:59:53

Duverger died. Third party proponents should strike while the iron is hot.

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby pacino » Mon Dec 22, 2014 14:48:52

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby Werthless » Mon Dec 22, 2014 23:41:57


Serious question: How would we know if there was no fraud going on in a situation where you can just show up, sign in, and vote?

http://ballotpedia.org/Dead_people_voting

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby Bucky » Tue Dec 23, 2014 08:05:05

Serious answer: we don't. But it still remains that VID laws are a very expensive (in both $ and disenfranchisation (new word ftw) costs) in search of a problem that is unmeausurable at this time. If that's anyone's rationalization for the initiative, well then you and I and Mike Turzai know it's a bold faced lie.

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby pacino » Tue Dec 23, 2014 08:49:51

we already have a check. people register to vote. we know if people vote in two spots. the worst form of 'fraud' we see is people voting in the wrong polling place because it changes all the time.

dead people registered to vote? i'm unclear how a dead person voting will be solved through voter ID. that's someone manipulating the votes; and it IS so infrequent that it's not worth denying the vote to so many more people. your link posited that there have possibly been about 2000 votes cast by dead people (culled from lists, not actually verified). in PA alone over 500,000 voters didn't have an ID for a multitude of reasons and wouldn't be able to vote.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby drsmooth » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:00:06

most votes are ratifications. if your vote is so tight a few dead voters make the difference, especially at the national level, you've got bigger issues to worry about; or, curiously enough, you may not have much of anything to worry about.
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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby Werthless » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:47:17

pacino wrote:dead people registered to vote? i'm unclear how a dead person voting will be solved through voter ID.

Can I see some ID, Bernie? :)

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:50:39

pacino wrote:ridiculous sentence:
Republicans and Democrats are calling on Del. Joseph D. Morrissey (D-Henrico) to resign from the Virginia House of Delegates after his conviction Friday on a charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Morrissey was given a 12-month jail sentence with six months suspended in a case stemming from his connection with a 17-year-old female receptionist.

The terms of his sentence allow Morrissey to continue to serve in the General Assembly while incarcerated. But Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) and the leader of the House Democratic Caucus are urging him not to come back in light of his conviction on what a spokesman for the governor called “disturbing charges.”
Morrissey entered an Alford plea to one misdemeanor count of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Alford pleas allow the accused to maintain innocence but acknowledge that there is enough evidence for a conviction.

Prosecutors had accused him of having sex with the receptionist who worked at his law firm and of possessing child pornography — allegedly a photo of the teenager. Morrissey and the girl have both said their cellphones were hacked and incriminating text messages planted by a third party. Their relationship was not sexual, Morrissey has said.


“This is a very troubling case,” House Minority Leader David J. Toscano (D-Charlottesville) said in a statement Saturday, “and disqualifies him from serving in the House.” Toscano added that “we are actively exploring all available options, including removal, if he does not [resign].”

Senate Democrats also called for Morrissey to go.

“Virginians expect and deserve representatives whose conduct — especially towards children — is above reproach,” said Minority Leader Richard L. Saslaw (Fairfax).

The chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, Pat Mullins, likewise called for Morrissey’s resignation, calling him “a disgrace not only to himself, but to the Commonwealth of Virginia.”

he's now found God and is refusing to resign. jesus christ, what an asshat and a criminal piece of crap. and only the powerful get a damn sentence like that.

A few things:

(1) Morrissey is terrible. His antics as a prosecutor and attorney are legendary and led to him losing his bar license for nearly a decade. In fact, he has faced disciplinary actions in multiple countries. For some unfathomable reason our Supreme Court overruled the unanimous decision of the State Bar Committee three years ago and allowed him to be reinstated to practice law. Now they look incredibly dumb. I and many of my coworkers (including my wife) have had personal dealings with him, and he is always an embarassment.

(2) I won't get into his antics in the House except to reference point (1). I will admit that he did have some redeeming qualities as a legislator (the minority party needs a squeaky wheel when it's outnumbered 2-to-1), though it was painful to watch/listen to him speaking during every single floor debate.

(3) He did resign last week, the day after you posted this article. He initially announced his intention to run in the Democratic Primary, but that was quickly quashed.

(4) The terms of his sentence weren't unique. It was work release. The only unique thing was that his occupation is a licensed attorney and a legislator. The moment he resigned his seat and announced his intention to run in the primary, the Henrico Sheriff cancelled the work release to keep Morrissey from abusing his privileges to campaign, which would clearly be a violation.

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby Werthless » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:18:02

The more liberal a professor is, the more likely they are to discriminate against conservatives (and admit to it in a survey). Yes, not very shocking, unless you consider that liberalism is not generally associated with discrimination.

http://yoelinbar.net/papers/political_diversity.pdf

One in six respondents said that she or he would be somewhat (or more) inclined to discriminate against conservatives in inviting them for symposia or reviewing their work. One in four would discriminate in reviewing their grant applications. More than one in three would discriminate against them when making hiring decisions. Thus, willingness to discriminate is not limited to small decisions. In fact, it is strongest when it comes to the most important decisions, such as grant applications and hiring. This hostile climate offers a simple explanation of why conservatives hide their political opinions from colleagues.

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Re: Ink up your Veto Pens this is the POLITICS thread.

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:27:18

should grant application and hiring decisions be made indiscriminately?

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