Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Phan In Phlorida » Wed Apr 02, 2014 18:53:40

I have a 140 IQ and make fart jokes on a baseball message board.


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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 03, 2014 08:24:39

slugsrbad wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Twitter seems to be freaking out over aggregate campaign donation limits being struck down, but the practical impact of the decision is not much. Few people hit the aggregate totals and those who do would run out of things to give money to in the chunks currently allowed pretty quickly.


That's my initial thought, I was going to read the opinion at lunch, but it's 40ish pages so I doubt I'll work up the motivation and will watch SHIELD instead.

EDIT: Maybe I'll just read Thomas' concurrence where he calls to overturn Bucky v. Valeo and wait for SCOTUSblog to do a plain English summary... or I could read the synopsis.

Rich people get more speech than you do.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:08:24

Charles Koch writes an op-ed in the WSJ

it's a must-read. a real glimpse into his mindset. the richest victim you'll ever meet.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby dajafi » Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:59:45

You should write the WSJ asking them to publish your rebuttal!

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:14:33

free speech means you get a column, you get a column, and you get a column!
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:44:34

TenuredVulture wrote:Twenty years in higher ed demonstrates to me that if IQ as a measure of some innate quality of intellect exists, it probably doesn't matter much. That is, I don't think there's anything like "innate ability" or "intelligence" or "talent" that underlies achievement. No one achieves much without effort, and what really seems to be a difference maker is understanding the process, that is knowing how to apply that effort. Persistence and engagement--asking for help, learning from mistakes and applying those lessons all matter a great deal, and I don't know if we're really doing a great job on helping students develop those skills and in some cases we're doing the exact opposite, for instance telling kids that they're just not good test takers as if there's some magic ingredient that enables some to perform well on tests and others less so.
Agree, and that is part of what I was getting at. The qualities that are predictive of long-term financial well-being are things like how a person responds to failure, grit, delaying gratification, etc. It's probably mostly cultural, but it would not surprise me if there were also genetic markers. Intelligence is less important.
I do worry that pushing more high level skills at younger ages is really such a great idea. I know I wasn't expected to learn to read until I was almost 7, and I wonder what might have happened if someone thought I need to learn to read at 5. I don't really see the advantage of pushing reading skills to pre-k, and see tons of disadvantages--specifically, learning to read before the child is ready is likely to establish a negative pattern that's hard to break. In addition, it also means that learning by say playing with blocks and dirt (and I really believe building with blocks does develop important cognitive skills) gets neglected.

On the other hand, I also am intrigued by the idea that the exposure of infants to adults who speak to them often with a sophisticated vocabulary gives them substantial advantages in cognitive development, and there's no remedy if there's a lack of this. There do seem to be cultural differences with how people interact with infants.

Yeah, I think pre-k funding is effective for that aspect, being placed in a positive, no stress environment with sophisticated language. It also frees up time, time for a job that may not have otherwise paid enough to justify the "job + daycare" combination that middle and upper families can choose.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby traderdave » Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:50:21

"A truly free society is based on a vision of respect for people and what they value."

That one sentence is so bursting with hypocrisy that I could not go any further.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:11:47

dajafi wrote:You should write the WSJ asking them to publish your rebuttal!

:)

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:16:19

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:16:56

pacino wrote:Charles Koch writes an op-ed in the WSJ

it's a must-read. a real glimpse into his mindset. the richest victim you'll ever meet.


in less-decadent societies, Koch would have to worry about more than his character being assassinated
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby drsmooth » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:17:34

"fatal conceit" - look in the goddamn mirror Chuck
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:21:01

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Twitter seems to be freaking out over aggregate campaign donation limits being struck down, but the practical impact of the decision is not much. Few people hit the aggregate totals and those who do would run out of things to give money to in the chunks currently allowed pretty quickly.


That's my initial thought, I was going to read the opinion at lunch, but it's 40ish pages so I doubt I'll work up the motivation and will watch SHIELD instead.

EDIT: Maybe I'll just read Thomas' concurrence where he calls to overturn Bucky v. Valeo and wait for SCOTUSblog to do a plain English summary... or I could read the synopsis.

Rich people get more speech than you do.

Is Bucky rich?

/Bucky

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Youseff » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:22:40

This is what a real tenderoni likes to do for you

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby pacino » Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:30:57

a reupblican likes paul ryan. shocking development.
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 13:40:04

pacino wrote:a reupblican likes paul ryan. shocking development.

Don't make me find an appropriate Bill Cosby quote.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 13:43:34

By the way, I was partially wrong in some of my earlier comments.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc ... rk/358636/
While Robinson and Harris largely disproved that assumption, they did find a handful of habits that make a difference, such as reading aloud to young kids (fewer than half of whom are read to daily) and talking with teenagers about college plans. But these interventions don’t take place at school or in the presence of teachers, where policy makers exert the most influence—they take place at home.

What’s more, although conventional wisdom holds that poor children do badly in school because their parents don’t care about education, the opposite is true. Across race, class, and education level, the vast majority of American parents report that they speak with their kids about the importance of good grades and hope that they will attend college. Asian American kids may perform inordinately well on tests, for example, but their parents are not much more involved at school than Hispanic parents are—not surprising, given that both groups experience language barriers. So why are some parents more effective at helping their children translate these shared values into achievement?

Robinson and Harris posit that greater financial and educational resources allow some parents to embed their children in neighborhoods and social settings in which they meet many college-educated adults with interesting careers. Upper-middle-class kids aren’t just told a good education will help them succeed in life. They are surrounded by family and friends who work as doctors, lawyers, and engineers and who reminisce about their college years around the dinner table. Asian parents are an interesting exception; even when they are poor and unable to provide these types of social settings, they seem to be able to communicate the value and appeal of education in a similarly effective manner.

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby td11 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 13:48:39

Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:a reupblican likes paul ryan. shocking development.

Don't make me find an appropriate Bill Cosby quote.

bill cosby blows
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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Apr 03, 2014 13:48:40

report came out on ibragim, which was talked about a handful of pages back. TAL has a blog entry up about it:

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/blog/20 ... l-no-tales

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby Werthless » Thu Apr 03, 2014 13:50:27

td11 wrote:
Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:a reupblican likes paul ryan. shocking development.

Don't make me find an appropriate Bill Cosby quote.

bill cosby blows

He's Democrat!

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Re: Crimea and Putinishment (politics)

Postby td11 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 13:56:01

Werthless wrote:
td11 wrote:
Werthless wrote:
pacino wrote:a reupblican likes paul ryan. shocking development.

Don't make me find an appropriate Bill Cosby quote.

bill cosby blows

He's Democrat!

am i blowing yr mind?
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