POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Fri Jan 24, 2014 23:14:07

pacino wrote:via Politico:

"The Kentucky Republican’s office will blast out his rebuttal to Obama’s speech via social media and his email list...Paul joins two other Republicans who will deliver reactions to Obama’s address Tuesday: Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington will deliver the official GOP response, while Sen. Mike Lee of Utah will deliver the tea party address

dear god, he's live-snarking the SOTU address. someone at gawker offer him a job

Easier to cut and paste from Wikipedia that way.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby thephan » Sat Jan 25, 2014 08:40:12

slugsrbad wrote:Is there any actual proof of this? Or is it just because it's happening now, and President Obama's administration is being scrutinized a lot more closely than previous Presidents?


I found this statement interesting. I absolutely think that Obama has been under a magnifying glass from day one with a select group of people actively looking for ways to make him fail or actively trip him whenever possible, but I also think that these actions began in earnest at the end of Clinton and were applied to vigorously Bush. I think that the difference today is that these actions are completely overt to a point of advertising campaigns, immediate, unrelenting, and deliberate to the point of creating situations. Respect is a thing of the past, and the nation's lack of self respect and accompanying self control are a national wart, or maybe tumor is more appropriate.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jan 25, 2014 18:37:18

Sandy Aid to Hoboken on Par With Other NJ Towns

Would've been nice if someone did this digging on the front end of the story, but better late than never.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby drsmooth » Sat Jan 25, 2014 23:17:45

jerseyhoya wrote:Sandy Aid to Hoboken on Par With Other NJ Towns

Would've been nice if someone did this digging on the front end of the story, but better late than never.


My understanding was that the main concern wasn't the piddling state dough, but the fed money the state ultimately doles out
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Jan 25, 2014 23:49:33

drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Sandy Aid to Hoboken on Par With Other NJ Towns

Would've been nice if someone did this digging on the front end of the story, but better late than never.


My understanding was that the main concern wasn't the piddling state dough, but the fed money the state ultimately doles out

This is federal money the state is giving out, yes?

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby slugsrbad » Sun Jan 26, 2014 00:20:21

jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Sandy Aid to Hoboken on Par With Other NJ Towns

Would've been nice if someone did this digging on the front end of the story, but better late than never.


My understanding was that the main concern wasn't the piddling state dough, but the fed money the state ultimately doles out

This is federal money the state is giving out, yes?


The city whose Democratic mayor said GOP Gov. Chris Christie's administration tied Superstorm Sandy aid to her support for a real estate project has, so far, received a level of aid from state-run programs that is similar to what other towns got, a review of grant data shows.


EDIT: I guess it could be state-run programs that are funded by the fed. aid? It merely says state-run and not state funded.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Jan 26, 2014 00:27:28

slugsrbad wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:
drsmooth wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Sandy Aid to Hoboken on Par With Other NJ Towns

Would've been nice if someone did this digging on the front end of the story, but better late than never.


My understanding was that the main concern wasn't the piddling state dough, but the fed money the state ultimately doles out

This is federal money the state is giving out, yes?


The city whose Democratic mayor said GOP Gov. Chris Christie's administration tied Superstorm Sandy aid to her support for a real estate project has, so far, received a level of aid from state-run programs that is similar to what other towns got, a review of grant data shows.


EDIT: I guess it could be state-run programs that are funded by the fed. aid? It merely says state-run and not state funded.

That's a good guess. Other than that being what the article is about, how could you know?

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby slugsrbad » Sun Jan 26, 2014 00:30:08

You mean I would have to read more than the first paragraph? I base all of my political commentary on what Dr. Smooth supposes and what I can glean from an introductory paragraph.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby drsmooth » Sun Jan 26, 2014 01:41:37

jerseyhoya wrote:
That's a good guess. Other than that being what the article is about, how could you know?


The article itself kinda wanders in that direction toward the end. Something about the "equal" money being from state coffers, with bigger federal bucks - to be dispatched by the state - yet to be divvied up. I'm cheating a bit, taking some context from other stories on the situation
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Monkeyboy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:55:57

It still doesn't mean that she wasn't threatened. Just because they may not have followed through on the threat doesn't mean it didn't happen. And just because the aid was on par doesn't mean that Hoboken shouldn't have gotten more given their location and damage.

I guess I just fail to see how this says much.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Sun Jan 26, 2014 19:10:47

there were a bunch of cars full of ostensibly Ukrainian protesters blocking off the roads around city hall when I was walking home earlier. I guess they want Nutter to declare war

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Roger Dorn » Mon Jan 27, 2014 09:48:25

Houshphandzadeh wrote:there were a bunch of cars full of ostensibly Ukrainian protesters blocking off the roads around city hall when I was walking home earlier. I guess they want Nutter to declare war


The Philadelphia police are the only municipal agency in US history to drop a bomb and take out an entire block worth of homes so Nutter should feel comfortable deploying them
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Bucky » Mon Jan 27, 2014 09:54:16

10 blocks? Wow, it's grown 10-fold with the passing years!

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:00:46

Bigots….

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-pm-under-f ... 28738.html

Jerusalem (AFP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was under fire Sunday from religious lawmakers following a report that his son was dating a non-Jewish woman, media said.

Norwegian newspaper Dagen reported that Yair Netanyahu, 23, was dating 25-year-old Norwegian Sandra Leikanger, currently studying in Israel.

Dagen said that at a meeting in Davos, Netanyahu had told his Norwegian counterpart Erna Solberg the two had recently holidayed in Norway.

Nissim Zeev, a member of the ultra-Orthodox Shas party, told the Jerusalem Post on Sunday Netanyahu must "display national responsibility" as prime minister.


Let's hope they don't start suggesting that they should cleanse the bloodline, you know. Maybe they need to visit one of the about a million holocaust memorials around the world to remind them what happens with this kind of thinking when it's taken to it's logical conclusion.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Roger Dorn » Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:06:27

Bucky wrote:10 blocks? Wow, it's grown 10-fold with the passing years!


Good catch, 10 blocks would have been something

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby traderdave » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:48:39

Monkeyboy wrote:Bigots….

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-pm-under-f ... 28738.html

Jerusalem (AFP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was under fire Sunday from religious lawmakers following a report that his son was dating a non-Jewish woman, media said.

Norwegian newspaper Dagen reported that Yair Netanyahu, 23, was dating 25-year-old Norwegian Sandra Leikanger, currently studying in Israel.

Dagen said that at a meeting in Davos, Netanyahu had told his Norwegian counterpart Erna Solberg the two had recently holidayed in Norway.

Nissim Zeev, a member of the ultra-Orthodox Shas party, told the Jerusalem Post on Sunday Netanyahu must "display national responsibility" as prime minister.


Let's hope they don't start suggesting that they should cleanse the bloodline, you know. Maybe they need to visit one of the about a million holocaust memorials around the world to remind them what happens with this kind of thinking when it's taken to it's logical conclusion.


Seriously. I understand that the lawmakers do not speak for the whole of Israel but, given their history, you would think that Jews would be among the most tolerant people in the universe. It is a very slippery slope if they let Jews start marrying Norwegians.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby ashton » Mon Jan 27, 2014 15:21:59

traderdave wrote: given their history, you would think that Jews would be among the most tolerant people in the universe.

Oppressed people don't dream of tolerance, they dream of being the oppressors. The Jews who survived religious discrimination and ethnic cleansing in Europe came to the middle east and established a country based on ethnic cleansing and religious discrimination.

traderdave wrote:It is a very slippery slope if they let Jews start marrying Norwegians.

A Jew cannot legally marry a Christian in Israel.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Doll Is Mine » Mon Jan 27, 2014 15:25:09

Monkeyboy wrote:Bigots….

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-pm-under-f ... 28738.html

Jerusalem (AFP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was under fire Sunday from religious lawmakers following a report that his son was dating a non-Jewish woman, media said.

Norwegian newspaper Dagen reported that Yair Netanyahu, 23, was dating 25-year-old Norwegian Sandra Leikanger, currently studying in Israel.

Dagen said that at a meeting in Davos, Netanyahu had told his Norwegian counterpart Erna Solberg the two had recently holidayed in Norway.

Nissim Zeev, a member of the ultra-Orthodox Shas party, told the Jerusalem Post on Sunday Netanyahu must "display national responsibility" as prime minister.


Let's hope they don't start suggesting that they should cleanse the bloodline, you know. Maybe they need to visit one of the about a million holocaust memorials around the world to remind them what happens with this kind of thinking when it's taken to it's logical conclusion.


:lol:

We're no better. The same thing will happen here when the Obama girls are seen dating white guys.

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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Jan 27, 2014 15:51:39

It's a bit more complicated than that--I know some secular progressive Jews who are not wild about inter-marriage because they believe that the survival of cultural/ethnic Judaism is far from assured. Of course, this position is cast as a personal choice but it's not quite fair to view this as a fascist sentiment.
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Re: POLITICS thread: In appreciation of Rob Ford

Postby Werthless » Mon Jan 27, 2014 16:40:55

Doll Is Mine wrote:We're no better. The same thing will happen here when the Obama girls are seen dating white guys.

Not by politicians, but maybe by political commentators...

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