All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby traderdave » Thu Oct 17, 2013 20:47:45

td11 wrote:
Roger Dorn wrote:Booker is all talk with no substance, honestly did he do anything positive in Newark? He has a lot of nice sounding rhetoric but that seems to be about it


https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/2 ... 4922323969


Substance.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Oct 17, 2013 22:34:28

What exactly was Booker supposed to do in Newark??

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Oct 18, 2013 00:43:00

Assessing the Exchanges - Anecdote and caveat filled recap of off the record conversations with a bunch of well placed people on the rollout

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby jerseyhoya » Fri Oct 18, 2013 00:56:42

Anatomy of a Shutdown

House Speaker John Boehner just wanted to sneak out of the White House for a smoke.

But President Barack Obama pulled him aside for a grilling. Obama wanted to know why they were in the second day of a government shutdown that the speaker had repeatedly and publicly pledged to avoid.

“John, what happened?” Obama asked, according to people briefed on the Oct. 2 conversation.

“I got overrun, that’s what happened,” Boehner said.

Obama and Reid got on the same page early on, agreeing during strategy sessions over the summer that they wouldn’t give up anything until Republicans renewed the debt limit and government funding.

Democrats never believed that Boehner could deliver the 217 House votes he needed to cut a deal. He could shut down the government and risk default, but because of hard-line conservatives, Boehner couldn’t pass anything. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told Obama and Reid this privately, and she repeated it publicly. This belief drove the Democrats throughout the crisis: stand firm and Boehner will be forced to fold.

The moron brigade picked a fight it couldn't win, and enabled the people they were ostensibly trying to beat to stand firm because their opponents knew they were too fucking stupid to actually agree to anything rational that could be used to settle the fight on grounds more favorable to the tea party folks.

The best part is the members and staffers of the members who were responsible for all of this going so poorly will read this and conclude, "Oh, Politico is just trying to make us look bad." No, you assholes, you're completely fucking moronic and don't understand how anything works. You need to have majorities to pass things you want in a democracy, and if you use your majority to pout rather than advance solutions you will always, always lose.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Roger Dorn » Fri Oct 18, 2013 08:37:41

Ted Cruz is a strange and bizarre man

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby pacino » Fri Oct 18, 2013 08:49:22

Virginia has purged 38,000 people from the rolls a few weeks before the gubernatorial election:
The Virginia Board of Elections has purged more than 38,000 names from its voter rolls just weeks before Election Day, despite serious concerns from local election administrators that many of those voters are still eligible to cast a ballot.

The purge comes a few months after the board said it would use several databases to find voters who were now ineligible to vote, either because they had been convicted of a felony or moved out of state. But after the board sent an initial list of voters who would be purged to local election administrators, those administrators found what they said were hundreds of voters who shouldn’t be removed.

On Oct. 3, the state Democratic Party filed paperwork seeking an injunction to halt the purge. But on Tuesday, the Board of Elections said it had already nixed 38,870 names from voter rolls after county registrars reviewed the initial lists.

Another 11,138 eligible voters will remain active on the rolls after county registrars reviewed the state lists. And almost 7,300 will be designated “inactive,” meaning they must cast provisional ballots on Election Day, ballots that will only be counted after their eligibility is verified.

“This is a 14th Amendment issue. We have 131 local election officials here in Virginia, and the guidance they got from the state board was, quote, use your best judgement,” said Brian Coy, a spokesman for the Virginia Democratic Party. Coy said the fact that the Board of Elections’ legal adviser, Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli (R), is on the ballot this year as a candidate for governor raised red flags.

Several county registrars said they didn’t have the time necessary to ensure eligible voters inadvertently included on the state list weren’t denied their right to vote. Loudoun County Registrar Judy Brown said in an interview that she had to race to meet her local electoral board’s deadline.

“My main concern was the lack of time to be able to devote to the list to make sure we weren’t taking people off without first trying to find out if they were still here or if they had left,” Brown said. “I believe that kind of stuff deserves my attention.”

After Brown decided to delay the purge, the state Board of Elections called her local elections board, which voted to require Brown to scrub Loudoun County’s voter rolls. They gave her one week. Brown said she sent letters to both in-state and out-of-state addresses she had for voters on the list, just a week before the state’s Oct. 15 registration deadline. She’s already heard from some who say they still live in-state.

Chesterfield County Registrar Lawrence C. Haake III filed his own affidavit, saying he had conducted a review and found almost 10 percent of the names flagged by the state Board of Elections were of eligible voters, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch. Haake, a Republican, has refused to purge voters from the list.

Cuccinelli’s office said in its own court filing that the the relatively small number of eligible voters mistakenly included on the list demonstrates the state Board of Elections and county registrars are doing their jobs.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby traderdave » Fri Oct 18, 2013 09:33:12

Didn't know if y'all saw this from Lonegan's concession speech. Check out around 0:55; what a guy:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... peech.html

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Bucky » Fri Oct 18, 2013 09:39:50

jerseyhoya wrote:

But President Barack Obama pulled him aside for a grilling. Obama wanted to know why they were in the second day of a government shutdown that the speaker had repeatedly and publicly pledged to avoid.

“John, what happened?” Obama asked, according to people briefed on the Oct. 2 conversation.

“I got overrun, that’s what happened,” Boehner said.




At first I thought it was pretty lame of the administration to let this blurb get out, but now I'm thinking they may be actually trying to cover for Boehner a bit and not have him take the full hit. Anybody?

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:46:13

traderdave wrote:Didn't know if y'all saw this from Lonegan's concession speech. Check out around 0:55; what a guy:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... peech.html


I don't mind his daughter/aide.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:59:16

The talk on the far right these days is about a purge from the Republican Party. I know true believers like to play the long game--they're willing to accept short team defeats for the promise of some ultimate victory sometime in the future. But they should realize that's the game Mao played as well. And China is now CINO--communist in name only.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:22:08

slugsrbad wrote:
traderdave wrote:Didn't know if y'all saw this from Lonegan's concession speech. Check out around 0:55; what a guy:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... peech.html


I don't mind his daughter/aide.



He probably doesn't like women touching him, you know, on account of him being gay.

I mean, how does he not notice his wife's big breasts and who treats a woman like that, just pushing her off like a gay guy would? I wonder how hard he hits her in private when he's not giving a concession speech.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:24:30

Mission accomplished by the GOP, the economy will take longer to recover, making Obama look bad. It was kinda a win-win for them. Even if they got nothing, they still hurt the government and the economy. We can't have a black man in the white house look like a success or there will be more of them...... maybe even a woman, too.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:24:55

Monkeyboy wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
traderdave wrote:Didn't know if y'all saw this from Lonegan's concession speech. Check out around 0:55; what a guy:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... peech.html


I don't mind his daughter/aide.



He probably doesn't like women touching him, you know, on account of him being gay.

I mean, how does he not notice his wife's big breasts and who treats a woman like that, just pushing her off like a gay guy would? I wonder how hard he hits her in private when he's not giving a concession speech.


This is DiM's territory, but I don't think gay guys are allergic or creeped out by the touch of a woman.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:27:11

In a less spiteful note, anyone else like a Clinton/Schweitzer ticket in 2016? Schweitzer could be a nice counter to Christie, plain-talking, reasonable-sounding white guy who had success in a state controlled by the opposite party.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:34:56

slugsrbad wrote:
Monkeyboy wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
traderdave wrote:Didn't know if y'all saw this from Lonegan's concession speech. Check out around 0:55; what a guy:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/20 ... peech.html


I don't mind his daughter/aide.



He probably doesn't like women touching him, you know, on account of him being gay.

I mean, how does he not notice his wife's big breasts and who treats a woman like that, just pushing her off like a gay guy would? I wonder how hard he hits her in private when he's not giving a concession speech.


This is DiM's territory, but I don't think gay guys are allergic or creeped out by the touch of a woman.



Yeh, and straight guys can look at a girl's twitter pic without mentioning her breasts, but that didn't stop Lonegan's advisor from saying that to Booker. In other words, I was being sarcastic. Plus, I really do think there's a good chance he's gay, at least that's what my gaydar says.
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:35:35

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:37:50

he's going to punch her so hard when he sees that gif on the internet. You made me look bad, woman!
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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:42:09

Honestly, he tried to be subtle by moving away from her the first time, and she just kept on doing it. Bitch, stop petting him.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby Roger Dorn » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:44:30

I would never do that to my wife, especially as a political figure making a public speech. Idiot.

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Re: All Your Bash Ar Belong To US - Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Oct 18, 2013 16:50:16

And up until that time he seemed so sympathetic.
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