jerseyhoya wrote:Looking forward to the fiscal cliff compromise on taxes basically being Romney's tax plan with lower rates and the cap on deductions (tho marginal rates being a bit higher than Romney wanted).

drsmooth wrote:This guy Frum ain't dum

Douthat basically tries to do the Cliff Notes version (see what I did there?). While he succeeds in his homely way I guess, he adds this goodie:

The bad news is that unlike a pander on immigration, a new economic agenda probably wouldn’t be favorably received by the party’s big donors, who tend to be quite happy with the Republican Party’s current positioning.

But after spending billions of those donors’ dollars with nothing to show for it, perhaps Republicans should seek a different path: one in which they raise a little less money but win a few more votes.

TenuredVulture wrote:This might be worth reading.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... -past.html

Don't know if it really offers a way out though.

jerseyhoya wrote:But over the course of the campaign, a lot of national polls pointed toward the same thing the Romney people were seeing in their polling. A GOP enthusiasm gap, strong support from Independents, much closer partisan makeup of the electorate. The assumptions were very plausible. They just ended up being incorrect.

Swiggers wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:This might be worth reading.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... -past.html

Don't know if it really offers a way out though.

It's short on specifics, but its essential message is a good one. The Democrats remade themselves in the late '80s and '90s because their old coalition and platform was antiquated and standing in the way of progress. That is now the case with the Republicans, and they need to do the same thing.

pacino wrote:Rove and Limbaugh are upset

1:55 is the killer

BR Perfect example of people who are on welfare who shouldn't be happened at the bowling alley last night. A girl that her boyfriend was of one of the guys we were bowling against was there with probably close to a $500.00 outfit on, fancy jacket, scarf, and fancy boots. Ears pierced multiple times and multiple fancy necklaces on. Throughout the course of the night, she probably ordered about 5 rum and cokes or a drink that looked like that. I know it was alcohol because they carded her before she received her first drink. During the night she proceeds to rearrange her wallet and she took out her cards and of course the first one she takes out is a food stamps card. Ridiculous.
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KH Brad do you even know what a food stamp card looks like?
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BRYeah, I worked at a grocery store for 6 years.
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KH ok then you know its an access card. I have an access card and Im not on food stamps. I have one because my son receives medicaid because of his autism. I've only ever used it for his school to bill for his therapy but I stil have one. So I guess that makes me a horrible dead beat looking for handouts from the government.

TenuredVulture wrote:

pacino wrote:Rove and Limbaugh are upset

1:55 is the killer

Mom should've let the kids stay up until at least OH was called. True story--in 2008, OH was called of Obama pretty early, and we all knew it was over. I explained to Lil' Vulture (who was 7 at the time) that I knew Obama won. I explained to her I had a PhD in political science, and it was my job to know these things. I explained to her how I knew California was going to go for Obama. Did she believe me? Not at all. She insisted on staying up until California was called. This time around, it was more or less the same, but we were waiting on OH. At least she didn't insist on staying up until Romney conceded.