The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 19:32:27

Roger Dorn wrote:As a registered Republican the election results have me smiling from ear to ear. The Party needs a wakeup call, and sooner rather than later. The Party of "small-government" is the biggest farce going. Last time I checked, small government does not entail starting two undeclared wars that have brought up astronomical debt and loss of life. Small government does not entail encroaching on personal life decisions such as advocating for a constitutional amendment defining marriage and overturning Roe v. Wade. Small government does not needlessly spend money combating a useless drug war.

The Republican Party is run by imbeciles and I will continue to laugh at them until they realize they need to stop this religious centric bullshit. This Party is not conservative and doesn't stand for conservative ideals whatsoever.


What if "Roger Dorn" really IS Corbin Bernsen?

:shock:

Think about it.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby drsmooth » Thu Nov 08, 2012 19:36:08

Doll Is Mine wrote:Image


Doll, this is cruel.

and unusual.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby phdave » Thu Nov 08, 2012 19:41:34

pacino wrote:uh oh, a Hindu! that guy was so right. First the muslims, then the buddhists, now the hindus. A guy in California is in a count and recount situation, so maybe two


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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 19:53:30

I guess conservapedia is open source, because someone is really funning with them. This is from the article on dogs:

Conservapedia wrote:Dogs are known for their loyalty, making them one of the most conservative pets. Dogs represent Real America; they are often found on farms in red states and not in cities, where liberal apartment rental agreements often prevent renters from having dogs. Dogs are an important part of family values, as the quintessential American family is often featured with a dog. Dogs also are often used to search out Muslim terrorists, serving America honorably in the army and police forces across the county.

Compared with lazy, entitled cats, dogs represent the epitome of a conservative animal. Historically, dogs earned their role in the home through hard work herding animals and assisting men with hunting. Cats, on the other hand, were worshiped as false idols in ancient societies and do little to earn their keep in the home. Liberals often use dogs to their political advantage - Barack Hussein Obama keeps a dog in the White House. This is clearly a liberal ploy to win over dog owners in crucial swing states. In reality no true dog would voluntarily be a part of the liberal propaganda machine, especially given how many liberals are atheist and the proven link between atheism and bestiality.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 20:17:01

People go on and on about Hillary in 2016.

Chelsea Clinton will be 38 (like me) in 2016.

Just sayin'.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 08, 2012 20:18:49

she'll be 3 years older than romney is now. i dont see the big deal. mccain was 70 when he ran
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby phdave » Thu Nov 08, 2012 20:28:47

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Nov 08, 2012 20:45:43

All I see are happy people.

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 20:48:28

pacino wrote:she'll be 3 years older than romney is now. i dont see the big deal. mccain was 70 when he ran


McCain and Romney didn't win.

And Reagan was entering his dotage midway through his second term.

Being President ain't a job for someone who will be well into her 70s if she wins two terms (or he wins two terms). 65 is like the cutoff I think, with Romney obviously just beating it.

I know 70 is the new 50 blah blah blah, but not really. This idea that keeps getting floated that Joe Biden might run is even dumber (he'd be 74 before he STARTED for heaven's sake). I mean, Joe Biden might think he's going to run, but he can't even stay awake through a state of the union address. How the hell is he going to campaign for 15 months? Someone should talk him out of it if he is considering it.

Early Dem favorites I would think are Martin O'Malley (afraid he might be too much of a clown), Andrew Cuomo (eh, not sexy in any sense of that word), there will be a push for Elizabeth Warren but I don't really foresee that, Deval Patrick I think is a serious candidate, and, god help me, Cory Booker.And maybe Chris Christie if he switches parties. :twisted:
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby dajafi » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:00:44

If Werthless won't take the RNC job, I suggest Dorn.

The problem they face could be put this way: David Koch isn't a homophobe, Mike Huckabee isn't a fanatical deregulator, and Doug Feith (or substitute the non-Kristol neocon of your choice) probably isn't either. When they were likely to win, they could all tolerate each other, but there's little reason to do so otherwise.

Paul's cosmopolitan vs. traditionalist framework probably does make more sense than what we have now.

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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:02:16

I think E. Warren is tough--she's obviously got plenty of domestic policy experience, but in 2016, she'll only have 2/3 of a Senate term as far as elected office goes. One knock on Obama was not even a full Senate term, and to some extent, I think that lack of experience was a handicap. And, she'll be 67. So, old and inexperienced. Not a great combo.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:02:48

martin o'malley appears to be fairly slimy

Cuomo, eh, better than booker. id go with warren.

i think i'll just focus on what's going on in 2012 and 2013 for now
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:03:40

On his morning radio blurb this morning, Huckabee moved very quickly back to his old socon/economic populist position.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:04:38

TenuredVulture wrote:I think E. Warren is tough--she's obviously got plenty of domestic policy experience, but in 2016, she'll only have 2/3 of a Senate term as far as elected office goes. One knock on Obama was not even a full Senate term, and to some extent, I think that lack of experience was a handicap. And, she'll be 67. So, old and inexperienced. Not a great combo.

i would do sex with elizabeth warren's brain so hard
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby pacino » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:05:12

in any event, if not warren, i'd go with brian schweitzer. that dude is strong.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:08:32

TenuredVulture wrote:I think E. Warren is tough--she's obviously got plenty of domestic policy experience, but in 2016, she'll only have 2/3 of a Senate term as far as elected office goes. One knock on Obama was not even a full Senate term, and to some extent, I think that lack of experience was a handicap. And, she'll be 67. So, old and inexperienced. Not a great combo.


I thought she was 61 now, would be 65 in 2016. Not that the difference between 65 and 67 is really all that much, but it kinda is psychologically knowing that she would turn 70 before the end of a theoretical first term.

I don't really think she has a snowball's chance in hell, except insofar as liberals like me love her and would gladly vote for her. But let's face it, I am to the Dems what the Tea Party is to the Republicans.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:17:40

So, if McCain got more total votes than Romney, then maybe Palin really was a positive for the R team in 2008.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:19:04

Yeah, I think Palin very well could go for the R nomination in 2016.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby Wolfgang622 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:29:16

TenuredVulture wrote:Yeah, I think Palin very well could go for the R nomination in 2016.


I'll say it: not a chance. I think she is more into being a TV star than a politician tbh.
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Re: The Fiscal Cliff: Politics, Not Lee

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Nov 08, 2012 21:32:43

mozartpc27 wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Yeah, I think Palin very well could go for the R nomination in 2016.


I'll say it: not a chance. I think she is more into being a TV star than a politician tbh.


Yes, but nothing will shine up a tarnished star like a presidential run.
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