dajafi wrote:Ron Paul: objectively pro-terrorist

In my opinion [opposition to the "mosque" project] has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it.

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Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

Phan In Phlorida wrote:

Grotewold wrote:Laying on the beach Saturday, I saw an airplane ad about Dick Cheney appearing in Atlantic City on September 18th. Too bad I already have tickets to Pol Pot

Speaking of... Dick Cheney has no pulse

Here's the chain of logic. It seems clear that Republicans are poised to make big gains in the midterm elections. Not thanks to their soaring vision for the country, mind you -- the public's view of the Republican Party is at one of its lowest points, according to recent polls -- but because the Obama administration hasn't produced enough jobs and growth.

It seems equally certain that Republicans will over-interpret their victory as a call for "more of the same" in the run-up to 2012. In this case, "more of the same" means relentless Obama-bashing, an invocation of tax cuts as the answer to any woe, a refusal to offer plans that add up or cohere, and in general the kind of vacuous but politically effective maneuvering of an "out" party on the scent of getting back "in."
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What about the Democrats? Chastened by big losses on Nov. 3, they will begin their orgy of recriminations and finger-pointing the next day. The charges will be contradictory and self-serving, as is always the case during party meltdowns. "Obama wasn't progressive enough." "Obama governed too much from the left." You can script the shout-fest on MSNBC already.

The question mark is the president. He's famously (and admirably) allergic to "small ball." But, as reality sinks in, he'll probably come to terms with what Bill Clinton had to accept after his own midterm blowout. The affirmative phase of his presidency will be over. All resources must be marshaled for victory in 2012. With luck, Obama will reckon, there will be license to think big again come 2013. In the meantime, it'll be time for the mandatory White House shake-up, the news conference in which Obama explains that he "gets it," the public call to Republicans to make progress together and the private plotting to bury them.

Bottom line? We're looking at two years of posturing with an eye to 2012, with next to nothing being done to renew American competitiveness, rescue the middle class or [insert your favorite neglected agenda item here].

Remember how we moaned that the incentives facing Wall Street led bankers to run risks that made them rich even as they wrecked the economy? Turns out the incentives facing politicians don't serve us well, either.

Winning is a politician's first duty. But what it takes to win political power bears no relationship to actually solving public problems. Etch this in stone somewhere. Our problem is that simple -- and that complicated.

jerseyhoya wrote:Dems starting to concede the House

Not all Democrats – or Republicans, for that matter – share this pessimistic assessment 68 days before the election. Republicans need to pick up 39 seats, and polls show most voters still have a downbeat view of the GOP’s ability to govern any better than Democrats.

Rep. Bobby Bright (D-AL), one of the most vulnerable Dems in the House, has come up with a new way of distancing himself from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi: Joking that Pelosi could die in the coming months and be unable to serve as Speaker next year.

Appearing at a Chamber of Commerce event in Montgomery, AL, Bright said -- in jest, he insisted -- that there is the possibility that Pelosi loses re-election and can't be Speaker next year. He then went one step farther, saying that Pelosi could die before the next Congress comes into session.

dajafi wrote:I wonder how (not if) the Republican House will try to impeach Obama.

azrider wrote:

dajafi wrote:I wonder how (not if) the Republican House will try to impeach Obama.

much like the crazies, if you can find it on the right it has probably happened on the left and vice versa. welcome to our american political system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to ... ge_W._Bush