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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:34:18

So she scratched it into her own face, then? Hence the backward B? This country has jumped the shark, again.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:35:49

dajafi wrote:This statement, from the Fox News executive VP, baffles me:

"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."


I'm obviously not a McCain supporter. But why would the campaign suffer for the presumably uncoordinated lie of one probably unwell young woman? McCain didn't do anything amiss here. (Right?)


Did the McCain campaign play it up? I know that it was featured on Redstate, along with 7 or 8 incidents of sign stealing.

Anyway, I don't think the story was out there long enough to have any impact on anything. Unless, it turns out the the whole fake thing was in fact faked by the Obama campaign--get a person to claim to be attacked, then confess to making it up. Or, maybe it was a triple fake.
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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:40:07

As near as I can tell no one in the establishment believed her anyway, I can't see how this can cost them anything, except maybe for the mistake of calling her and wishing her well.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:40:19

Is the Drudge Report's terrible web layout some kind of Real America, "I don't even know what a blog is" triple-deke?

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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:41:28

No, he's comitted to having a quick loading simple page. Believe it or don't.
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Postby Mountainphan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:52:47

dajafi wrote:That McCain campaign worker evidently confessed to making it up.

Also, she apparently has some history with(and fondness for) lying for attention and enjoyment.

I don't read Drudge, that hyena, but I'm guessing this one doesn't get the flashing siren.


It looks like she's going to be charged and deservedly so.
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Postby Mountainphan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:55:18

VoxOrion wrote:No, he's comitted to having a quick loading simple page. Believe it or don't.


Ripley's......believe it......or don't.

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:55:30

Mountainphan wrote:
dajafi wrote:That McCain campaign worker evidently confessed to making it up.

Also, she apparently has some history with(and fondness for) lying for attention and enjoyment.

I don't read Drudge, that hyena, but I'm guessing this one doesn't get the flashing siren.


It looks like she's going to be charged and deservedly so.


Good liberal that I am, she clearly has a mental illness and is not responsible for her actions. She needs treatment, not jail.
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Postby Mountainphan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 14:59:38

TenuredVulture wrote:
Mountainphan wrote:
dajafi wrote:That McCain campaign worker evidently confessed to making it up.

Also, she apparently has some history with(and fondness for) lying for attention and enjoyment.

I don't read Drudge, that hyena, but I'm guessing this one doesn't get the flashing siren.


It looks like she's going to be charged and deservedly so.


Good liberal that I am, she clearly has a mental illness and is not responsible for her actions. She needs treatment, not jail.


Perhaps a lot of treatment and a little "detention".
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:00:41

Maybe some sexual healing

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Postby The Red Tornado » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:00:43

TenuredVulture wrote:
Mountainphan wrote:
dajafi wrote:That McCain campaign worker evidently confessed to making it up.

Also, she apparently has some history with(and fondness for) lying for attention and enjoyment.

I don't read Drudge, that hyena, but I'm guessing this one doesn't get the flashing siren.


It looks like she's going to be charged and deservedly so.


Good liberal that I am, she clearly has a mental illness and is not responsible for her actions. She needs treatment, not jail.


people with mental illnesses still should be held responsible for their actions
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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:09:04

The Red Tornado wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
Mountainphan wrote:
dajafi wrote:That McCain campaign worker evidently confessed to making it up.

Also, she apparently has some history with(and fondness for) lying for attention and enjoyment.

I don't read Drudge, that hyena, but I'm guessing this one doesn't get the flashing siren.


It looks like she's going to be charged and deservedly so.


Good liberal that I am, she clearly has a mental illness and is not responsible for her actions. She needs treatment, not jail.


people with mental illnesses still should be held responsible for their actions


I'd say it depends on whether there was free will or not and on the degree of harm done.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:14:29

Jeez, apparently the quote on the girl's myspace is/was ""Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths [sic] off, but its [sic] better if you do."

(from a salon article)

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Postby Bill McNeal » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:16:35

sounds like a goer.
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Postby Barry Jive » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:19:59

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Jeez, apparently the quote on the girl's myspace is/was ""Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths [sic] off, but its [sic] better if you do."

(from a salon article)


that would explain the heavy-handed use of "[sic]"
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:21:12

Barry Jive wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:Jeez, apparently the quote on the girl's myspace is/was ""Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths [sic] off, but its [sic] better if you do."

(from a salon article)


that would explain the heavy-handed use of "[sic]"

I have a lot of free time at work. Their arts and culture articles are often pretty good.

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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:22:05

Really facinating read about the McCain campaign. Interestingly, Rich Lowery commented that all that appears here jibes with his "inside" knowledge of the campaign (so it's tough to argue it's a hit piece or that it's unfair - his only comment is that he can't believe the campaign let Draper publish before the election was over).

It's pretty long, and some of the irrational Palin haters might wish it were harder on her, but in the end, this might be a pretty good first chapter in how to not win a presidential campaign.
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Postby dajafi » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:26:33

Mountainphan wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:
Mountainphan wrote:
dajafi wrote:That McCain campaign worker evidently confessed to making it up.

Also, she apparently has some history with(and fondness for) lying for attention and enjoyment.

I don't read Drudge, that hyena, but I'm guessing this one doesn't get the flashing siren.


It looks like she's going to be charged and deservedly so.


Good liberal that I am, she clearly has a mental illness and is not responsible for her actions. She needs treatment, not jail.


Perhaps a lot of treatment and a little "detention".


Right. Either way, it's a personal story, not a campaign story IMO.

On a largely unrelated note, I wonder how long it will take for people to grasp that what they've written and done online inevitably will be excavated when they do controversial high-profile things...

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Postby The Red Tornado » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:28:54

You mean I shouldnt be blogging if I want to make the headlines?
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Postby dajafi » Fri Oct 24, 2008 15:29:18

VoxOrion wrote:Really facinating read about the McCain campaign. Interestingly, Rich Lowery commented that all that appears here jibes with his "inside" knowledge of the campaign (so it's tough to argue it's a hit piece or that it's unfair - his only comment is that he can't believe the campaign let Draper publish before the election was over).

It's pretty long, and some of the irrational Palin haters might wish it were harder on her, but in the end, this might be a pretty good first chapter in how to not win a presidential campaign.


I put this in my gym reading for the weekend. Thanks.

Apparently this circular-firing squad dynamic is becoming "the" story: see hereand here.

If nothing else, that seems like spectacularly bad form; the campaign isn't over, fellas.

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