Laexile wrote:Monkeyboy wrote:Mountainphan wrote:With McCain and Keating, McCain owned up to his lapse in judgement a long time ago. Some blame McCain-Feingold on McCain's "regret" over his connection to Keating (even though his connection was found to be overstated to a large degree). Also, the Keating Five affair was thoroughly covered by the press and only now is Obama's connection to Bill Ayers getting some serious scrutiny.
Except that McCain has recently said that he was innocent in the Keating Affair and that he didn't do anything wrong and it was all just a partisan witchhunt. Of course, he says this after years of saying the direct opposite, which is that he made mistakes and learned from them.
Also, the investigation into the Keating affair didn't cover McCain's wife's investment into a mall being built by Keating, so there is stuff out there that hasn't been investigated fully.
John McCain never said he was guilty of anything. He said that he used poor judgement. I used poor judgement when I was hit be a car crossing the street. Like John McCain I learned from that experience.
On NPR last night a Democratic investigator said that McCain did nothing wrong and should have been dropped from the investigation. Since the three senators who actually did something wrong were Democrats the committee wouldn't do it. He said that he was voting for Obama but he didn't like people misrepresenting his work. When McCain sat in on the meeting he told them, "Don't treat Keating any differently than anyone else."
It was a Democratic scandal. McCain was included for political cover. Maybe we can smear the Democrats with Iran Contra.
If we're bringing up McCain's actions in the fire 41 years ago, should we bring up Barack Obama's drug use? In his autobiography Obama talked about using marijuana and cocaine as a teenager. The left makes a big deal of George Bush's drug use. I guess we should do the same?
I find it hard to believe that anyone would read all about the Keating affair and think that he did nothing wrong. At the very least, he used poor judgement. It seems that something that calls into question the judgement of a candidate is fair game. I only linked to it because McCain has decided to make this ridiculous Ayers thing an issue, even though Obama had much less contact with Ayers than McCain did with his jetset buddy. And like I said, McCain's wife was also involved in a property deal with Keating that was outside the scope of the investigation. As for Obama's drug use, he has written about it and is open about it. Unlike McCain, his story hasn't changed very much.
I personally think the Ayers thing was investigated enough. I think the NYT article did a good job of investigating the allegation and we all know how that turned out. But if there's new stuff, then I think that's fair game, as it should be for McCain and Palin. We should be hearing much more about her strange church and her ties to Iranian supported domestic terrorists.
Since Palin has decided that Ayers is an issue, certainly the fact that her seccessionist group friends have ties to Iran should also be fair game.
Before his strange murder in 1993, party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, "When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may be coming here. Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don't have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we're ready to die."
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Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.
That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.
AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform. "The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed," by Vogler's U.N. speech, darkly suggests Clark. "And we can't have that, can we?"
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Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.
I'll just wait for the liberal major media to go on and on about Palin's domestic and Iranian terrorist ties. So far, just silence. And I'll wait for the righties in attendance to deride the fact that Palin is in league with conspiracy theorists. I know how much they hate those crazy conspiracy guys and here's a group that thinks its leader was offed by the gov't to suppress his free speech. Nutcases.
