Singapore is pretty socially uptight.

I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.

lethal wrote:Singapore is pretty socially uptight.

Don't they lash you wiht a cane if you spit on the sidewalk?

George W Bush Sewage Plant

Those kookie San Fransicans.

kruker wrote:George W Bush Sewage Plant

Those kookie San Fransicans.

While I have better thing to do with my time than bother with this kind of activity, once its on teh ballot i have no problem voting 'yeah'. W and pa, and Cheney and Rummy and all rest should be tried for crimes against humanity, not to mention the US people. The debt load alone will be saddling us the rest of my life on planet earth most likely.

As I've mentioned before, W has enacted more "executive orders" than all prior presidents combined, an obvious technique to circumvent congressional oversight and defy the 3-branches notion the framers set out. This along with so much else, makes him the worst president in my lifetime and that's saying somethin...

I'm not excited by Obama, and would be miserable with McCain -- but I can't wait for W to out of there, a position he was woefully underqualified for, the classic puppet as secretet prez Cheney ran the show -- and likely didn't even win fairly and so was never truly mandated to be our commander in chief.

I would like to see Bush try to make one state of the union speech, or fireside chat with absolutely zero speech writers. Just himself. No help. I'd like to hear that? And I'd like to hear hiim interviewed and grilled by real reporters with no rules , no holds bar... he would be exposed so fast...

I'm ashamed when I travel abroad to be one of the subjects of the W regime... so let's name that sewage plant after him, he doesn't deserve a courthouse since he cheated the law and justice, he doesn't deserve a school since he did nothing for education, he doesn't deserve a bank since he wrecked the economy, he doesn't deserve a bridge since he put no resources to crumbling infrastructure ... sewage plant sounds about right...

One of the less pleasant aspects of writing a political column when one party is having a particularly grim year is that the story gets so repetitive. Some years, the Democrats are in the political toilet. This year, the Republicans are in that unenviable position.

In the presidential race, presumptive Republican nominee John McCain is behind but still very competitive. For the GOP, that is the bright spot on the horizon. In the House and Senate contests, the debate is about how many seats the Republicans will lose; they no longer have a realistic chance of holding their own.

Charlie Cook

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Philly the Kid wrote:

kruker wrote:George W Bush Sewage Plant

Those kookie San Fransicans.

I would like to see Bush try to make one state of the union speech, or fireside chat with absolutely zero speech writers. Just himself. No help. I'd like to hear that? And I'd like to hear hiim interviewed and grilled by real reporters with no rules , no holds bar... he would be exposed so fast...

Because no other presidents use speech writers? Come on now.

MrsVox wrote:

Philly the Kid wrote:

kruker wrote:George W Bush Sewage Plant

Those kookie San Fransicans.

I would like to see Bush try to make one state of the union speech, or fireside chat with absolutely zero speech writers. Just himself. No help. I'd like to hear that? And I'd like to hear hiim interviewed and grilled by real reporters with no rules , no holds bar... he would be exposed so fast...

Because no other presidents use speech writers? Come on now.

Philly -- nearly anyone would be exposed. There's hardly a public figure out there that doesn't have someone write their material for them and prepare them. What would be the point? To prove Bush is a dummy? I think we have 7+ years of evidence to go on at this point

Philly the Kid wrote:I would like to see Bush try to make one state of the union speech, or fireside chat with absolutely zero speech writers. Just himself. No help. I'd like to hear that? And I'd like to hear hiim interviewed and grilled by real reporters with no rules , no holds bar... he would be exposed so fast...

There's little point in "exposing" Bush, because everybody knows what he is: a little man of no particular talent, puffed up by a superb political operation and unchallenged, for a long time anyway, by a complacent media into a position far, far above his merit. Anyone who had been paying attention in 2000 would have realized that the guy failed upward through his entire life. The tragedy is that it took the presidency, the position that probably carries the greatest responsibility in the world, to completely reveal him as the boob he is.

(And even the Republicans know this. Nobody is running as a "Bush Republican" this year; the Reagan fetishizing is as much about dispelling Bush's stench as it is glorifying Reagan. There will be no rehabilitation.)

For all the things about McCain that bother me, and for all the things I particularly like about Obama, I'm convinced the main reason I can't get too into this election is that I think McCain is bona fide on record and merit. (Reason #2: the Democrats probably won't really change much of significance. I hope I'm wrong, but the performance of the Dem Congress and Obama's fundamental moderation--which he needs to succeed politically--leaves me very dubious.) My enormous fear was that Bush (and DeLay) would reshape his party and maybe the country on grounds of know-nothing belligerence and hyper-partisanship; I'd actually be pretty happy if McCain reshaped his party on reformist, pragmatic grounds.

What killed me about Bush is that his rise seemed to show something so fundamentally wrong with the country, that we allowed someone of such little intelligence, character, or curiosity to reach that position. Even Romney and Giuliani, the two candidates I really disliked, earned their way into the national conversation with brains and hard work and some record of governing achievement.

I do know that Huckabee would have speeches written for him, but he rarely followed the script. And I've seen Huckabee speak in person a couple of times, and he really was engaging. However, I still don't think he is qualified to be President.

The problem isn't that Bush uses speech writers, it's that his speech writers aren't very good.

Woody wrote:

MrsVox wrote:

Philly the Kid wrote:

kruker wrote:George W Bush Sewage Plant

Those kookie San Fransicans.

I would like to see Bush try to make one state of the union speech, or fireside chat with absolutely zero speech writers. Just himself. No help. I'd like to hear that? And I'd like to hear hiim interviewed and grilled by real reporters with no rules , no holds bar... he would be exposed so fast...

Because no other presidents use speech writers? Come on now.

Philly -- nearly anyone would be exposed. There's hardly a public figure out there that doesn't have someone write their material for them and prepare them. What would be the point? To prove Bush is a dummy? I think we have 7+ years of evidence to go on at this point

Even Barack Obama fumbles, stammers, and is often uncomfortable without prepared speeches.

What killed me about Bush is that his rise seemed to show something so fundamentally wrong with the country, that we allowed someone of such little intelligence, character, or curiosity to reach that position.

Bush isn't the least intelligent, least curious, or least moral President we've had in this country. This thing you're spotting that's wrong with this country is the thing that's wrong with democracy. Democracy is about popularity and not about putting in the most intelligent, moral, or curious candidate. Unless the Democrats can have their super delegates select the President too, Bush won't be the last you might judge this way.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm9IUfPZsX8[/youtube]

1) Who did they get to narrate this ad? A guy that volunteered to do it for $5 that they found on the street?

2) Really? They cite the NY Post? Really?

3) Why not talk about why it's bad that Obama hasn't held a hearing on Afghanistan? Mention that he's the subcommittee chair that is involved in overseeing NATO. Otherwise it seems like a weird throwaway line.

4) See 2. I mean, the mind reels.

The Wife John McCain Callously Left Behind

For those who believe husband character counts.
Proof that there are do-overs in life.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/07/rather-on-jacks.html

Baha, I hate that man.

Also, the Daily Mail is like a gossip tabloidy thing isn't it? Judging by the front page of the website it doesn't seem like the most reputable paper in the world. I'm sure the reasons surrounding him leaving the wife for the wealthy heiress weren't exactly flattering to McCain, but a thinly sourced "article" in a British tabloid is kind of a weak thing to hold up to damn someone.

jerseyhoya wrote:http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/07/rather-on-jacks.html

Baha, I hate that man.

Also, the Daily Mail is like a gossip tabloidy thing isn't it? Judging by the front page of the website it doesn't seem like the most reputable paper in the world. I'm sure the reasons surrounding him leaving the wife for the wealthy heiress weren't exactly flattering to McCain, but a thinly sourced "article" in a British tabloid is kind of a weak thing to hold up to damn someone.

Isn't this McCain first wife stuff common knowledge? There's nothing in that story I haven't already read a hundred different times elsewhere. He basically bailed on her after her accident, and there's really no way around it.

I would hope I would have more character than that, but who knows what I would do if I spent 5 years in a POW camp and when I came back my wife was a fat cripple. I can't pass judgment on that. 40 years ago. She doesn't seem overly upset.

His primary interest was women and his conquests ranged from a knife-wielding floozy nicknamed ‘Marie, the Flame of Florida’ to a tobacco heiress.

I mean, the tone of the article is absurd.

And the first wife doesn't seem to harbor any bitterness. Who knows what kind of understanding they came to? The author goes out of her way to attribute all sorts of motivations to the split, based on things said by "old friends."

"Knife-wielding floozy..." gotta love that.

I don't think there's much public appetite to judge McCain, given how long ago it all happened, the lack of resentment on the part of his first wife, and general sympathy for the unimaginable experience he endured. There was some speculation that this history--the infidelity in particular--would hurt him among the cultural right, and maybe it depresses the enthusiasm in those quarters. But even there I don't think it's McCain's own past behavior so much as that his heart isn't into moral scolding.

As well as the fact that some of our great leaders have been total hounds, while failures from Robespierre to, well, George W. Bush have been regarded as "personally beyond reproach."

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’

This is a bit from Ted Sampley about Barack Obama:

American conservatives already suspect that Obama Jr's much proclaimed opposition to America's war against Muslim terrorist in Iraq is more about his Muslim heritage than peace. Obama Jr's "I don't think we're at that stage yet" answer to Sawyer stirred immediate reaction from a former U.S. Congressman who saw the Sawyer interview. "Yet? We all know what that means. If elected, at what stage will Barack Obama be willing to send American servicemen and women into the Kenyan meat grinder."

Dude is a freaking nut. Lord knows who some of the unnamed sources in the article are. He was also in charge of some random group against Kerry.

Edit: Baha, he was actually a Swift Boat vet, at least according to Keith Olbermann.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/01/19/countdown%E2%80%99s-worst-persons-ted-swift-boat-sampley-lou-dobbs-and-bill-oreilly/

But yeah, Daily Mail, good work there, "leading campaigner for veteran's rights"

TheDude24 wrote:The Wife John McCain Callously Left Behind

For those who believe husband character counts.
Proof that there are do-overs in life.

I can't believe that the Democrats would make an issue that McCain may have cheated on his wife 30 years ago after the Clinton Presidency. The LA Times had a similar story not too long ago.