mpmcgraw wrote:17

I don't think he should be worried about the non-voting populous right now..

Right because let me tell you there is a lot of difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old.

We smoke pot and drink illegally and they smoke pot and drink illegaly with slightly more facial hair. Night and day.

both groups dont vote either

you must live in a weird area if young people in your area dislike obama

Hitler youth?

pacino wrote:you must live in a weird area if young people in your area dislike obama

hope so.

Most people I know like Obama and I live in SJ although my friends are early to late 20s. I know some women who liked Hillary over Obama, but definitely not McCain over Obama.

My one friend wanted Hillary to win and has no inclination to vote for Obama- I called him a racist asshat.

pacino wrote:you must live in a weird area if young people in your area dislike obama

Enlightened.

I heard that Obama is an 8th cousin of Dick Cheyney and 10th cousin of Bush? How many layers before anyone is related to anyone?

There's a new Conspiracy Theory film up on YouTube, some of it is strange and extreme -- but its got some interesting material. I doubt most here could make it all the way through to the end -- but I think you'd get something out of the experience if you do. It's called:

"Esoteric Agenda"

talks about everything from Quantam Physics, and Chakras, to the FedReserve, IMF, to Fluoride in the water, to the Nor-o replacing the dollar and Dec 21st 2012.

wild....!

I have no idea who is behind it, or what THEIR agenda is? I heard a clip on the radio when I was driving around LA over the weekend, decided to look it up when I got home.

Just go to YouTube and it's in 9minute chunks.

All of the kids on MTV and in campaign ads love Obama, that means only dangerous kids don't. Need I remind you a vote against Obama is a vote for the KKK.

you're not even trying anymore vox, you need a pick-me-up

Eh, you know how it is. Tiger Woods doesn't play miniature golf, either.

I actually had a grown, otherwise intelligent seeming man tell me that the only reason someone wouldn't vote for Obama is if they are a racist, because there is absolutely no relevant reason a rational person wouldn't want him to be president otherwise. The theme runs thicker than syrup here, despite limp protests to the contrary or "shocked" surprise that anyone would suggest such a thing. Gonna be an interesting six months, I wish we could just call the thing for him now and get it over with.

VoxOrion wrote:I actually had a grown, otherwise intelligent seeming man tell me that the only reason someone wouldn't vote for Obama is if they are a racist, because there is absolutely no relevant reason a rational person wouldn't want him to be president otherwise.

I had an otherwise intelligent woman tell me that there is no rational reason why someone who voted for Clinton wouldn't vote for Obama because Clinton and Obama have similar stands on many key issues. I mentioned to her that all Democrats don't agree with either of the candidates and that there are Democrats who are Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, and agree with the Republicans on some issues while agreeing with the Democrats on others.

I mentioned that not everyone votes on issues. Some Clinton supporters might see Obama as too inexperienced or question his competence or think he's naive or simply not like him. Some Clinton supporters might be closer to McCain than Obama but supported Clinton because they were women. She dismissed these reasons as possibilities and said that anyone defecting to McCain had to be racist.

Laexile wrote:

VoxOrion wrote:I actually had a grown, otherwise intelligent seeming man tell me that the only reason someone wouldn't vote for Obama is if they are a racist, because there is absolutely no relevant reason a rational person wouldn't want him to be president otherwise.

I had an otherwise intelligent woman tell me that there is no rational reason why someone who voted for Clinton wouldn't vote for Obama because Clinton and Obama have similar stands on many key issues. I mentioned to her that all Democrats don't agree with either of the candidates and that there are Democrats who are Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, and agree with the Republicans on some issues while agreeing with the Democrats on others.

I mentioned that not everyone votes on issues. Some Clinton supporters might see Obama as too inexperienced or question his competence or think he's naive or simply not like him. Some Clinton supporters might be closer to McCain than Obama but supported Clinton because they were women. She dismissed these reasons as possibilities and said that anyone defecting to McCain had to be racist.

Wow. That's pretty weak.

I'm sure there will be racists who won't vote for him, but he sounds pretty politican to me and I suspect most. I think most people will vote on issues and perception -- who they think is most suited. Of course, the media manipulates on a daily basis so perception will continue to shift as the media does their magic. There are of course pockets of the country where people are registered, will vote, and are not particularly worldy or educated and who knows what their rationale will be?

While it is ridiculous that some people accuse anyone who doesn't like Obama to be a racist, it's just as ridiculous to think there aren't an incredible amount of voters who won't for him because he's black.

jerseyhoya wrote:

pacino wrote:you must live in a weird area if young people in your area dislike obama

Enlightened.

at this rate, by september you won't even be posting in game threads anymore; all your time will be spent here, clacking away in a haze of ideological dissipation

VoxOrion wrote:Eh, you know how it is. Tiger Woods doesn't play miniature golf, either.

I actually had a grown, otherwise intelligent seeming man tell me that the only reason someone wouldn't vote for Obama is if they are a racist, because there is absolutely no relevant reason a rational person wouldn't want him to be president otherwise. The theme runs thicker than syrup here, despite limp protests to the contrary or "shocked" surprise that anyone would suggest such a thing. Gonna be an interesting six months, I wish we could just call the thing for him now and get it over with.

I agree. No rational human being would not vote for Obama. Sadly, about half of the US is irrational.

Philly the Kid wrote:Wow. That's pretty weak.

I'm sure there will be racists who won't vote for him, but he sounds pretty politican to me and I suspect most. I think most people will vote on issues and perception -- who they think is most suited. Of course, the media manipulates on a daily basis so perception will continue to shift as the media does their magic. There are of course pockets of the country where people are registered, will vote, and are not particularly worldy or educated and who knows what their rationale will be?

Weak? What do you base that on? How do you know most people vote on issues? Personally I haven't voted for the candidate whose stances aligned with mine in 20 years. I've been traveling the country asking people who they are voting for and why. I've interviewed people who are educated and those who aren't as educated. Some plan to vote solely on issues but some base it on the factors I listed. I'm not sure how you can feel you know the motivation of people you don't come across in daily life. They're surprising me.

Beep beep!