2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 24, 2016 08:52:27

"Let's not do that anymore," deadpanned Danny Ainge, Boston's president of basketball operations. "Let's try to keep it to three [picks], at the most. Eight's a lot."

Ainge admitted that there were small sequences of chaos inside Boston's war room as the team tried to balance the incoming trade calls with making sure it was ready for the rapid succession of picks.

"I think that, overall, our staff did great. We regrouped, called a 20[-second timeout]," Ainge joked. "We had two 20s. We used one quick and we got it together."

"We had a lot of discussion about even trading [the No. 3] pick and trading down in the draft and trading for future picks and so forth," Ainge said. "Ultimately, there wasn’t anything to our liking. We grew very fond of Jaylen. He’s a great kid -- 19 years old who has a man’s body, great athleticism, sort of a vogue, new type of player in the NBA, of the versatile players, the versatile wings, can play multiple positions defensively. And we think he has a lot of upside, but we think he’s a 19-year-old kid that can get on the court and play with the big boys right out of the gate."


"I'm really excited about a lot of the guys we got tonight," Ainge said. "I'm glad we don't have eight new draft picks. Maybe there will be some playing in other leagues and we can focus on two or three maybe on our roster this year."

Ainge was asked if there was any frustration in not being able to find a more proven player via trade.

"Well, we'll see. Time will tell. [Brown is] not a cornerstone today. I would never put any pressure on a kid that young, but listen, that's how cornerstone players are made," Ainge said. "There are so many guys as you look all around the league, nobody on draft night knew what they were. We'll see. Time will tell."

Ainge has pleaded for patience throughout this building process and did so again after Thursday's draft.

"There was a lot of discussion and no deals. It was just that simple," Ainge said. "We pulled away from some; they pulled away from some. I don't think it was a lack of value [with the No. 3 pick]. But to find trade partners in those kind of deals, it has to be good for both teams. We just didn't find one. I'm confident we are moving in the right direction. We still have free agency and a lot of money to spend in the free-agent market to still build our team."
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Eddie Jordan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 08:54:22

all in on Korkmaz, didn't know that he would be that good of an athlete
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 24, 2016 08:56:35

Werthless wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:
The Clippers pick is protected in the lottery (picks 1-14) in 2019 and 2020. If it’s not conveyed after 2020, then the Celtics will instead a receive 2022 second-round pick.


Wow, what an awful value. I love it.

literally just didnt want to pick someone
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Youseff » Fri Jun 24, 2016 08:56:37

pacino wrote:
"Let's not do that anymore," deadpanned Danny Ainge, Boston's president of basketball operations. "Let's try to keep it to three [picks], at the most. Eight's a lot."

Ainge admitted that there were small sequences of chaos inside Boston's war room as the team tried to balance the incoming trade calls with making sure it was ready for the rapid succession of picks.

"I think that, overall, our staff did great. We regrouped, called a 20[-second timeout]," Ainge joked. "We had two 20s. We used one quick and we got it together."

"We had a lot of discussion about even trading [the No. 3] pick and trading down in the draft and trading for future picks and so forth," Ainge said. "Ultimately, there wasn’t anything to our liking. We grew very fond of Jaylen. He’s a great kid -- 19 years old who has a man’s body, great athleticism, sort of a vogue, new type of player in the NBA, of the versatile players, the versatile wings, can play multiple positions defensively. And we think he has a lot of upside, but we think he’s a 19-year-old kid that can get on the court and play with the big boys right out of the gate."


"I'm really excited about a lot of the guys we got tonight," Ainge said. "I'm glad we don't have eight new draft picks. Maybe there will be some playing in other leagues and we can focus on two or three maybe on our roster this year."

Ainge was asked if there was any frustration in not being able to find a more proven player via trade.

"Well, we'll see. Time will tell. [Brown is] not a cornerstone today. I would never put any pressure on a kid that young, but listen, that's how cornerstone players are made," Ainge said. "There are so many guys as you look all around the league, nobody on draft night knew what they were. We'll see. Time will tell."

Ainge has pleaded for patience throughout this building process and did so again after Thursday's draft.

"There was a lot of discussion and no deals. It was just that simple," Ainge said. "We pulled away from some; they pulled away from some. I don't think it was a lack of value [with the No. 3 pick]. But to find trade partners in those kind of deals, it has to be good for both teams. We just didn't find one. I'm confident we are moving in the right direction. We still have free agency and a lot of money to spend in the free-agent market to still build our team."


certainly not the most glowing review of a 3rd pick I've ever read. "he may be pretty good, I dunno, probably not but it's possible!"
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Youseff » Fri Jun 24, 2016 08:57:36

pacino wrote:
Werthless wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:
The Clippers pick is protected in the lottery (picks 1-14) in 2019 and 2020. If it’s not conveyed after 2020, then the Celtics will instead a receive 2022 second-round pick.


Wow, what an awful value. I love it.

literally just didnt want to pick someone


what am I missing? Clippers won't be in the lottery so Celtics probably get their 19 first round pick...not bad?
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 24, 2016 08:59:41

Youseff wrote:
pacino wrote:
Werthless wrote:
Houshphandzadeh wrote:
The Clippers pick is protected in the lottery (picks 1-14) in 2019 and 2020. If it’s not conveyed after 2020, then the Celtics will instead a receive 2022 second-round pick.


Wow, what an awful value. I love it.

literally just didnt want to pick someone


what am I missing? Clippers won't be in the lottery so Celtics probably get their 19 first round pick...not bad?

I think it's very likely they edge towards the lottery in 3 years time.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Youseff » Fri Jun 24, 2016 09:01:42

Blake Griffin is 27 and DeAndre Jordan is 27 so probably not. Even if they trade Blake they're probably getting awesome value back for him.
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 24, 2016 09:30:16

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Jun 24, 2016 09:37:10

moral of the night: ignore stupid rumors

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby JFLNYC » Fri Jun 24, 2016 09:42:25

Houshphandzadeh wrote:moral of the night: ignore stupid rumors


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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Jun 24, 2016 09:47:36

Youseff wrote:Blake Griffin is 27 and DeAndre Jordan is 27 so probably not. Even if they trade Blake they're probably getting awesome value back for him.


He's an UFA soon, is he not?
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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby pacino » Fri Jun 24, 2016 09:48:09

slugsrbad wrote:
Youseff wrote:Blake Griffin is 27 and DeAndre Jordan is 27 so probably not. Even if they trade Blake they're probably getting awesome value back for him.


He's an UFA soon, is he not?

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby momadance » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:30:52

pacino wrote:feel a little bad for Perry Ellis. at least he has his pension.


Some team will sign him to manage the 401k's.

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Shore » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:26:13

Aaron Torres, Fox Sports wrote:
Boston Celtics
Round 1: Jaylen Brown, SF, California (3); Guerschon Yabusele, PF, France (16); Ante Zizic, C, Croatia (23)
Round 2: Demetrius Jackson, PG, Notre Dame (45); Ben Bentil, PF, Providence (51); Abdel Nader, PF, Iowa State (58)
Grade: A+

My goodness did Boston have a great night.

The Celtics used the third pick on arguably the third-best player in this draft (Brown), who also happens to fill an immediate need for them (wing scoring). Yabusele should be able to develop into a physical presence down low, and Zizic might be the second-best "true" international prospect in this draft behind only Dragan Bender. He'll need time, but could develop into a big-time rotation player.

What put Boston over the top, however, was adding two first-round-caliber talents (Jackson and Bentil) in the second round. Jackson specifically might be the steal of the draft, as an ultra-quick guard who averaged 18 points at Notre Dame and tested off the charts at the Combine.

I'm not sure how Danny Ainge did it, but he got five guys who could one day be rotation players in Boston.


Is he literally on their payroll, or just a fanboy?

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:27:46

I think they did pretty well. getting Bentil and Jackson was great. the Zizic pick is really good. just depends if you like Jaylen Brown, I guess

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Grotewold » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:27:49

Torres wrote:I'm not sure how Danny Ainge did it, but he got five guys who could one day be rotation players in Boston.


Maybe he can expand the roster to 20

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Werthless » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:32:20

Shore wrote:Aaron Torres, Fox Sports wrote:
Boston Celtics
Round 1: Jaylen Brown, SF, California (3); Guerschon Yabusele, PF, France (16); Ante Zizic, C, Croatia (23)
Round 2: Demetrius Jackson, PG, Notre Dame (45); Ben Bentil, PF, Providence (51); Abdel Nader, PF, Iowa State (58)
Grade: A+

My goodness did Boston have a great night.

I'm not sure how Danny Ainge did it, but he got five guys who could one day be rotation players in Boston.


Is he literally on their payroll, or just a fanboy?

They drafted the most players! A++ draft!

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby The B1G Piece » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:04:52

Simmons:

56.1 effective FG
60.0 True Shooting
27.4 Assist Rate
18.6 Turnover Rate
26.5 DR Rate

Brown:

47.1 Effective FG
51.8 True Shooting
15.1 Assist Rate
21.0 Turnover Rate
16.5 DR Rate

Stanley Johnson:

50.1 Effective FG
55.1 True Shooting
11.6 Assist Rate
17.4 Turnover Rate
19.1 DR Rate

Let's go fucking crazy for Jaylen Brown though.

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:23:27

it's not like they passed on Simmons. Nate Duncan had Brown #2 on his board. all the guys at #3 have big flaws. wait and see!

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Re: 2016 NBA Draft; I can haz Ben Simmons?

Postby heyeaglefn » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:30:17

If I was a Celtics fan I'd be more pissed that they couldn't move back and still get Brown with what seemed like all the teams that wanted Dunn.

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